HISTSEX ARCHIVES: JANUARY 2000
© Lesley Hall and list contributors
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 10:13:00 -0500
From: Cathy Moran Hajo <cathy.hajo@nyu.edu>
Subject: Redesigned Sanger Project Web Site
The Margaret Sanger Papers Project's web page has been redesigned and
updated. In addition to biographical information, articles on Sanger and
birth control from the Project's newsletter, and descriptions of the
various birth control organizations Sanger led, the new website also
includes a small collection of transcribed documents. More will be added
in upcoming months.
The Margaret Sanger Papers Project is located at New York University's
History Department. To date we have produced a microfilm edition in two
series and are currently working on a four-volume book edition of selected
papers.
The Sanger web site is located at: http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger
Please excuse any duplication.
--
Cathy Moran Hajo
Assistant Editor/Assistant Director
The Margaret Sanger Papers Project
Department of History
New York University
53 Washington Square South, #501
New York, NY 10012-1098
cathy.hajo@nyu.edu
(212) 998-8666
(212) 995-4017 (fax)
Visit our web site at: http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger
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Date: 8 Jan 2000 16:18:47 -0000
From: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex-owner@listbot.com>
Subject: New Year Greetings
Happy Y2K to all list members. Histsex has now been going for almost 1
year and has 230+ current subscribers.
This is the usual periodic invitation to new subscribers (or anyone who
has not already done so) to introduce themselves and their interests in
history of sexuality to the list. Also to ask all members to update us on
their interests and research if appropriate, and to remind everyone to
post any information they may have on upcoming conference, publications,
websites etc which may be of interest to the list at large.
The list is currently not on actively moderated status, so please be
mindful that private messages sent inadvertently to the list will be
disseminated!
Another reminder: if you would like to add your name and research
interests to the History of Sexuality Research Interests register, you can
do so by e-mailing me at lesleyah@primex.co.uk. The register's URL is
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah/hofsresr.htm
Best wishes
Lesley
histsex-owner@listbot.com
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
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From: "lizard crain" <lizardcrain@hotmail.com>
Subject: green bottle intro-flo
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 10:28:22 PST
liz waves....
well i have now joined your web list and was informed by the auto-reply that
in order to be civil i should offer a brief description of myself and why i
am interested in this floating preserver. well this morning i was wandering
on the web not aimlessly but in search of information about my
greatgrandmother who acquired syphilis and was later institutionalized here
in cincinnati.
i am in the wading stages of my senior thesis which will become official in
a week when i return to vassar college in poughkeepsie, n.y. for my final
semester. my thesis is going to be mostly a dive into my relationship
withmy grandmother...a bit while still living but mostly after the
fact...with her spirit. but as with all writing great-grandmother swims into
the screen as well as Zimbabwe, lullabies, fountains, syphilis, blue
rooms.....all of
this and more will be connected in my hpertextual english thesis (using
theprogram storyspace). so that's all for now...i'll send this in a green
glass bottle....
sweet dreams
liz crain
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From: Mal123nash@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:58:10 EST
Subject: Re: The Year of Ulrichs
Hi All,
I'd just like to say happy new year -- the Year of Ulrichs!!
With best wishes,
Michael Lombardi-Nash
http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/celebration2000
Karl Heinrich Ulrichs: 175 Years of Pride
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From: "Margaretta Jolly" <jolly@moa.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: New Year Greetings
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:44:09 -0000
Introducing myself! My name is Margaretta Jolly. I lecture in the School of
Cultural and Community Studies at the University of Sussex and am
particularly interested in sexuality and life writing, more specifically, in
gay, lesbian and bisexual auto/biography.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:39:14 -0500 (EST)
From: echenier@pathcom.com
Subject: Gratitude
Some time ago, I asked members if they were familiar with the term "galled". Please accept my
belated thanks for your responses. It is a pleasure to find myself in such good and generous
company.
Best for the New Year,
Elise Chenier
.
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:48:59 +1100 (EST)
From: Ivan Crozier <I.Crozier@scifac.usyd.edu.au>
Subject: Nottingham's new book on Ellis
Happy new year!
A functional question: does anyone out there know the UK distributor
for Chris Nottingham's newly published book on Havelock ELlis, "The
pursuit of serenity", Amsterdam UP, 1999? I am trying to get it for
review.
Cheerio, Ivan
Ivan Crozier,
HPS Unit,
Sydney Universtiry,
Sydney 2006,
Australia
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From: "sally newman" <sa_newman@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Introductions/Research Interests Register
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:46:22 GMT
Hi, my name is Sally Newman - I am a graduate student at Monash University
in Melbourne, Australia. I am currently at the end of my first year of my
doctoral candidacy and am researching in the area of lesbian historiography.
My interests are in sexological writings of the late 19th century-mid 20th
and the influence/impact of these on lesbian self representation during this
period. I am currently involved in locating suitable archival material in
US and UK to provide comparative perspectives on this - so if anyone has any
suggestions about interesting private collections to look at that would be
great. By the way, has anyone heard about the Sexuality & Culture Summer
school in Amsterdam - I would be interested to hear from someone who has
attended or knows someone etc.
Sally
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From: Mal123nash@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:41:47 EST
Subject: Re: Introductions/Research Interests Register
Dear Sally,
I wonder if Anna Rüling's speech, "What interest does the Women's
Movement Have in Solving the Homosexual Problem," given in 1905 before
members of the Scientific Humanitarian Committee, would be of any use? I
think she may be the first out Lesbian in history. I translated the piece in
1978; Lillian Federman also rendered it later.
With best wishes,
Michael Lombardi-Nash, Ph.D.
http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/celebration2000
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Subject: Mayan homoeroticism
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:36:07 -0800
From: "andrei-f" <andrei-f@goplay.com>
Hello,
I am looking for anyone who is at all familiar with this topic.
Thank you,
Andrew
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From: "The Wife Of An Acrobat" <a_living_dead@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Mayan homoeroticism
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:39:43 -0600
Hi There!
I'm from Mexico so the Mayan culture is familiar to me... but, I've never
read anthing about homoeroticism on them...
If you want, I can check up my library and the school's files to see If I
can find anyhting.. What exactly do you have in mind?
What I can think of are in the sort of male bondage between mayan warriors
and their slaves, or homoeroticism in some of their rituals....
Can be of easy interpretation but hard to argument.
Let me know
Janell
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:06:01 -0500 (EST)
From: "David F. Greenberg" <dg4@is3.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Mayan homoeroticism
There is a section on the Mayans in my book, THE CONSTRUCTION OF
HOMOSEXUALITY (University of Chicago Press, 1988). You will find citations
to the original sources there. - David Greenberg, Sociology Department,
New York University
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Date: Fri, 04 Jan 1980 16:06:36 +0000
From: "Diane Mason" <d.mason@bathspa.ac.uk>
Subject: Teleny
Hi all!
I am currently researching a paper on the anonymously-authored 1893 text
Teleny, Or, The Reverse Of The Medal and I wonder if anybody could
suggest a possible title for a medical work alluded to by one of the
character's in the novel?
On page 45 of the Wordsworth edition (1995), Camille Des Grieux recalls
that 'I also read in a modern medical book, how the penis of a sodomite
becomes thin and pointed like a dog's, and how the human mouth gets
distorted when used for vile purposes, and I shuddered with horror and
disgust. Even the sight of that book blanched my cheek!' But what book
is he reading? It must have been current in the early to mid 1890s and
I have trawled the 'usual suspects' (Krafft-Ebing, Ellis, Lydston,
William Lee Howard etc.) writing on sexual inversion/perversion in that
period as well as some of the more 'populist' medical writing by people
like Pierce, Foote and Kellogg. I really would greatly appreciate any
suggestions as to the source of the aforementioned 'medical fiction' -
is it from something deadly 'legit' or from a widely read/circulated
'quack' piece?
Over to you and here's wishing you all a very happy New Year!
With best wishes,
Diane Mason
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:17:20 -0800 (PST)
From: "A. G. McLaren" <amclaren@UVic.CA>
Subject: Re: Teleny
I believe the author referred to is A. Tardieu, the French expert on
sexual criminality. I cite the passage in The Trials of Masculinity and
give the title of the book but am away from my office at the moment.
Angus McLaren
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From: Mal123nash@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:46:55 EST
Subject: Re: Teleny
Dear Diane,
I think the reference is to Ambroise Tardieu, "Etude médico-légal sur les
attentats aux moeurs (Paris, 1858).
With best wishes,
Michael Lombardi-Nash
http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/celebration2000
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From: "Margaretta Jolly" <jolly@moa.u-net.com>
Subject: sex and confession
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:48:59 -0000
I would be grateful if you would post this on the Historians of Sexuality
discussion list.
Does anyone know of any good literary discussions of sexual confession? I am
reading Jeremy Tambling's 1990. Confession: Sexuality, Sin, the Subject.
(Manchester and New York: Manchester University Press) but finding it rather
abstract, and more interested in Foucault's theory than in literary
questions of representation of aesthetic enjoyment.
I might add that I am investigating this in the context of a paper on recent
queer life writing, focusing on Anchee Min's Red Azalea.
Margaretta Jolly
Margaretta Jolly
School of Cultural and Community Studies
University of Sussex
Falmer, Sussex
BN1 9QN
01273 606755
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:02:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Jennifer Evans <be82312@binghamton.edu>
Subject: Re: sex and confession
Hello fellow listmembers,
I am not sure if this is an "appropriate" request for the list, but I am
searching for panelists for the 2001 AHA. The panel I am putting together
looks at transgressive urban sexualities in trans-national perspective. My
paper looks at post WWII Berlin and the regulation of male prostitution
while Elizabeth Clement (Utah) examines working class morality and
prostitution in 1920s NYC.
If anyone is interested in perhaps participating in some way, I would be
glad to hear from you. The conference is scheduled for early January 2001
in Boston and the proposal deadline is February 15th.
Thanks,
Jennifer
-----
Jennifer Evans
Department of History
SUNY-Binghamton and
University of British Columbia
be82312@binghamton.edu
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:30:41 -0500 (EST)
From: echenier@pathcom.com
Subject: Chicago 2000
Dear List members,
Paul Jackson and I, both PhD candidates at Queen's University in Kingston, are submitting a
panel proposal to the Chicago 2000 queer history conference. Is there a third person out there
who might like to join in?
We are both presenting on 'queers in captivity', he prisoners-of-war, and me prisoners of the state.
If you or if someone you know is interested in submitting a proposal that would 'fit' with ours, we
would love to have you join on.
Please reply privately (and soon! the deadline is end of the month) to echenier@pathcom.com
Best, Elise Chenier
.
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Subject: Re: Mayan homoeroticism
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:38:14 -0800
From: "andrei-f" <andrei-f@goplay.com>
Thank you, I'll look it up.
Andrei
"David F. Greenberg" <dg4@is3.nyu.edu> wrote on Wednesday January 12,
2000 at 11:31am:
>Histsex:For historians of sexuality -
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
>
>There is a section on the Mayans in my book, THE CONSTRUCTION OF
>HOMOSEXUALITY (University of Chicago Press, 1988). You will find
citations
>to the original sources there. - David Greenberg, Sociology
Department,
>New York University
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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Amsterdam Conference Apr 2000 History of Sexuality strand
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:39:32 -0000
A plea to all who are or may be going to this conference: due to the =
rescheduling to the afternoon of 15h April (final day of the conference) =
of the session
THE LAW AND ITS LIMITS: THE LEGAL PARAMETERS OF SEXUAL REGULATION IN =
ENGLAND 1918-1960
(Lucy Bland, Lesley Hall and Frank Mort: abstracts available via the =
conference site: http://www2.iisg.nl/esshc/ )
the original chair/discussant will be unable to participate.
We are therefore looking for volunteers to take on either or both these =
responsibilities.
Probably private replies to me would be best.
Many thanks
Lesley
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:32:41 +0100
From: Gert Hekma <hekma@pscw.uva.nl>
Subject: Re: Teleny
Dear Diana,
this must be Ambroise Tardieu Etude medico-legal sur les attentats aux
moeurs (many editions since 1857) who has also a picture of the particular
penis. Also translated into German, but not English as far as I know.
Gert Hekma
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From: "LJ Hall, Historical Studies" <Lisa.J.Hall@bristol.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:43:57 +0000
Subject: Re: Teleny
If it is the same Tardieu referred to here (in Louise Jackson's
'Child Sexual Abuse in Victorian Britain',) then his work seemed to
have been 'well known' amongst the English 'medical jurisprudence'
crowd. His articles are cited in A.S. Taylor's 'Elements of Medical
Jurisprudence' 11th edition, published in 1886. Hardly 'populist'
reading, but well thumbed in forensic circles...
LJ Hall, Historical Studies
Lisa.J.Hall@bristol.ac.uk
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From: Mal123nash@aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:56:00 EST
Subject: Re: Tardieu
In a message dated 1/17/00 9:48:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Lisa.J.Hall@bristol.ac.uk writes:
<< the same Tardieu >>
Both Karl Heinrich Ulrichs and Magnus Hirschfeld made "minced meat" out of
Tardieu's work.
Mike Lombardi-Nash
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From: "PETER BARTLETT" <Peter.Bartlett@nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:57:22 GMT0BST
Subject: Re: sex and confession
> Does anyone know of any good literary discussions of sexual confession? I am
> reading Jeremy Tambling's 1990. Confession: Sexuality, Sin, the Subject.
> (Manchester and New York: Manchester University Press) but finding it rather
> abstract, and more interested in Foucault's theory than in literary
> questions of representation of aesthetic enjoyment.
George Rousseau gave a paper on homosexuals and confession to
psychiatrists at the international history of psychiatry conference
in London in 1993(?). No idea if it was published; but I expect so.
It wouldn't be difficult to trace, if it were.
peter
The University of Nottingham
Department of Law
Nottingham
NG7 2RD
Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 5709
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:13:19 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lucy Bland <l.bland@unl.ac.uk>
Subject: 1)orientalism and sexual perversion; 2)trials
I wonder if anyone could help me with a couple of queries?
1) In a recent paper (about the 1920s trial in Britain of a French woman
accused of murdering her Egyptian husband - a man claimed to have
repeatedly buggered her and his male secretary) I (rashly) assert that
"Orientals were assumed to be inherently sexually perverse..." However I
have been unable to fine many sources to substantiate this! Does anyone
know of late 19th/early 20th century sources which do indeed propogate
such a view?
2) I am writing on a series of British trials (involving issues of sex
and race) in the period 1916-26. Can anyone suggest any article/book
which usefully discusses the impact of trials generally (as spectacle, as
performative, as source of ethical debate etc)on the wider culture. I
have of course read Alan Sinfield`s and Ed Cohen`s books of the Wilde
trials, and various writings on the trial of "The Well of Loneliness", as
well as Angus McLaren`s "Trials of Masculinity". What else is there?
Many thanks and best wishes
Lucy Bland
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:42:17 +0000
From: "Sam Pryke" <PRYKES@hope.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 1)orientalism and sexual perversion; 2)trials
You could probably do worse than go back to Said on C19 sexualised literary depictions of
Orientals -- usually combing both fascination and revulsion. I recently read an article in Past and
Present that might not be a thousand miles from the issues you seem to be interested in. It deals
with national/ethnic maintenance of the British community in Shanghai up to 1939. Amongst
other things it notes the deployment of sexual stereotypes of the Chinese as one measure to
emphasise its identity in general, and, more specifically, prevent its male members going outside
the British community for marriage partners, to prevent its women from going outside the group
for sex period.
If you want I could try and get you the reference.
SAM PRYKE
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:43:54 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lucy Bland <l.bland@unl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 1)orientalism and sexual perversion; 2)trials
Thank you - it would be good if you could find the reference, as it
sounds very useful. But dont worry if not, I expect I could find it in
the library.
Lucy Bland
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:48:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lucy Bland <l.bland@unl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 1)orientalism and sexual perversion; 2)trials
Thanks. Yes I know Marek Kohn`s excellent book, but must follow up Thomas
Burke.
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:01:06 +0000 (GMT) M Houlbrook <mhoulb@essex.ac.uk>
wrote:
> Marek Kohn's book 'Dope Girls of the West End' would be a useful place to
> start for contemporary references to Oriental perversion - he makes quite
> extensive use of slumming narratives etc. Also teh journalist and author
> Thomas Burke produced a couple of accounts of Limehouse life in the 1920s
> / 30s (Limehouse Nights is a possible title).
>
> Matt Houlbrook
>
> (University of Essex)
>
>
Lucy Bland
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:26:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Barb Marshall <bmarshall@trentu.ca>
Subject: New-to-list introduction
Hello all. My name is Barb Marshall, and I'm a Canadian sociologist. My
background is in feminist theory and the sociology of gender and
sexuality. I've written two books in this area: Engendering Modernity
(Polity Press, 1994) and Configuring Gender (Broadview Press, forthcoming
spring 2000)
I am currently developing a project on the intersections of sexuality,
gender and technology which has both contemporary and historical
dimensions. I'm interested in the whole concept of 'function' vs.
'dysfunction' as it has been constructed in sexology and medicine, the
rendering of dysfunction as amenable to technological intervention, the
relationship/tension between medicalization and commercialization of
sexuality, and the framing of all of this in terms of the continued
centring of penetrative intercourse and heterosexual marriage as the most
'authentic' form/context of sexual activity.
While I am at a fairly early stage of the research (ie. still
seeking funding!) several papers are in progress: an analysis of
popular/mass market 'viagra books' (a spate of these have appeared in the
short time that it has been on the market), an overview of the secondary
literature on science, technology and sexuality, and a critique/extension
of the Foucauldian framing of ethics and 'technologies of the self' which
attempts a more sociological reading, to develop a framework for the
analysis of sexuality as sociality.
To this point, I've been working primarily with secondary sources, but
hope to begin archival work this spring/summer once the grant money comes
in. In the next phase, One of the things I want to look at is the history
of 'erectile technologies', including the early 20th century work on
'rejuvenation', as a background to putting contemporary attention to
erectile dysfunction into perspective.
Any suggestions/comments are welcome!
**************************************************
Barbara L. Marshall
Associate Professor, Sociology and Women's Studies
Trent University, Peterborough, ON K9J 7B8
(705) 748-1334 (phone)
(705) 748-1630 (fax)
bmarshall@trentu.ca
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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: New-to-list introduction: technologies of sex: rejuvenation
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:55:11 -0000
On rejuvenation: Chandak Sengoopta (whom I think is out there on the list
somewhere?) has done some work on Voronoff and Steinach.
You might also be interested in my own work on doctors and male impotence
during (roughly speaking) the interwar period in Britain, in Hidden
Anxieties: male sexuality 1900-1950 (1991) - now o/p but I do have a few
copies available at a very reasonable rate!
You may already know the book American Sex Machines, based on research in
the US Patent Office, which I think includes remedies for flagging
erections.
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
To: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex@listbot.com>
Subject: Re: 2)trials
I recommend Nancy Erber and George Robb (eds), Disorder in the Court: Trials
and Sexual Conflict at the Turn of the Century (Macmillan 1999). On the
first part of your query, you might find Antoinette Burton's chapter on the
Rukhmabai case and the child marriage question in India relevant
PS a final thought - does Billie Melamn's Englishwomen's Orients have
anything to say about sexual perceptions?
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:59:13 -0500 (EST)
From: "David F. Greenberg" <dg4@is3.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: New-to-list introduction: technologies of sex: rejuvenation
What are you charging for HIDDEN ANXIETIES? - David Greenberg, Sociology
Department, New York University, 269 Mercer St., Rm. 402, New York, NY
10003, USA
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From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: New-to-list introduction: technologies of sex: rejuvenation
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:15:57 -0000
>What are you charging for HIDDEN ANXIETIES?
Within UK £5 inc postage and packing: outside UK £3.50 plus whatever the
postage comes to.
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:55:27 +1100 (EST)
From: Ivan Crozier <I.Crozier@scifac.usyd.edu.au>
Subject: Re: 1)orientalism and sexual perversion; 2)trials
Dear Lucy,
The terminal essay of RF Burton's "Thousand nights and a night" SOME
editions discussed sodomy in terms of race. However, you need the long
version of the essay, which was often only available in privately printed
editions. Burton stressed that biological factors were important in
determining sexual desires, and used a Humboltean model for biology
relating to geography.
This essay is discussed my many, including J Weeks.
Cheerio, Ivan
Ivan Crozier,
Unit for the History and Philosophy of Science,
Sydney University,
Sydney 2006,
Australia
> Lucy Bland
> ---------
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From: "Chris Willis" <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Age of Consent
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:22:38 -0000
Hi!
Please could I pick people's brains? Did the Labouchere Amendment (or
anything else in that Act) include any mention of age? I'm presuming that
if male homosexuality was illegal per se, there could be no legal age of
consent anyway, but I don't know this for sure.
Also, what was the age of consent for heterosexual intercourse before the
1885 Act? Am I right in thinking it was 13? And was it the same for men
and women, or did it only apply to women?
Sorry to ask such basic questions - the books I've referred to are
infuriatingly vague on these points, and I'd be immensely grateful if anyone
could enlighten me!
Many thanks!
Chris
=========================================
Chris Willis
English Dept
Birkbeck College
Malet Street
London WC1E 7HX
Chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:49:48 +0000
From: Ianthe <ianthe@duende.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Age of Consent
In message <001401bf638c$a06e07c0$cd9b883e@freeservesignup>,
Chris Willis <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Also, what was the age of consent for heterosexual intercourse before the
>1885 Act? Am I right in thinking it was 13? And was it the same for men
>and women, or did it only apply to women?
It's my understanding that in 1275, it was 12. Elizabeth the 1st
lowered it to 10 in 1576, where it (heterosexual, intercourse)
was fixed for nearly 300 years until raised from 10 to 12 in
1861, to 13 in 1875, and finally to 16 in 1885 (although
Green claims this latter change was in 1879?). However,
the age-of-consent for sexual acts _other than intercourse_
was only raised from 13 to 16 in 1922.
Further, it seems that in 1885 the Common Law marriage
age was set at 12, which was raised to 16 only in 1929.
The implication (can anyone correct this?), is that
heterosexual sex _inside_ marriage was treated differently
in law than hetero sex _outside_ marriage?
Of course, there were often _de facto_ "ages of consent"
from region to region and city to city in the UK, whereby
police and magistrates prejudicially mounted prosecutions
using lesser 'corruption of minors' charges or similar,
as part of their harassment of local lesbian/gay subcultures.
Religious law also muddies the waters (esp. in relation
to the Empire and its administrators) - Muslim girls can
marry at age 12, Hindu girls at 14, and the Catholic
Church has a "universal law" which allows girls to marry
at 14 and boys at 16.
The age of consent in the UK before 1885 seems shaped by
Common Law, but after it became basically a legal fiction
heavily shaped not by Common Law but by the evangelical reform
campaigns of the late 19th century (then at the height of
influence after the most worthy securing of the abolition
of the slave trade, but casting around to find a new target
for their campaigning machine - and finding it in street
prostitution, hyped up by them into a mythical "white slave
trade of virgins" smuggled to imaginary Oriental cabals.
See Walkowitz).
Another interesting factor is that the onset of puberty in
the UK has reportedly dropped from an average 16.5 years
for females and 17.5 for males in 1840, to 11.9 and 13.1
years respectively in 1993, and it is still dropping
year-on-year. Several ESRC-funded research projects are
ongoing in the UK to try to determine the factors involved
in this.
One thus has to be careful not to allow the catch-all
phrase "age of consent" to elide and obscure such diverse
areas as: sexual intercourse, marriage, and non-intercourse
sex, gay sexual practices, religious marriage practice,
age of puberty, etc. (If someone's looking for a Phd.
subject, you could do worse than a comprehensive and
detailed primary-source tracking of "the age of consent"
in the UK from 1850 to 1930.)
In other countries, and in many US states, age-of-consent
vary widely [from Spain, (12), Canada, (14) - to 18 (gay
boys in the UK) or even 21.] See: http://www.ageofconsent.com/
for more detailed info.
Useful hetero references might be:
Walkowitz, Judith. City of Dreadful Delight - narratives
of sexual danger in late Victorian London. London, Virago,
1993.
Simpson, A.E. Vulnerability and the age of female consent -
legal innovation and its effect on prosecutions for rape in
18th Century London. IN: Maccubbin, R.P. (Ed.) 'Tis Nature's
Fault - unauthorized sexuality during the Enlightenment.
Cambridge University Press, 1987. (pp. 181-205)
Smith, L.
Take Back Your Mink - Lewis Carroll, child masquerade and
the age-of-consent.
ART HISTORY, vol.16, Spring 1993, pp.369-385. Bib, ill.
Bailey, Victor. and Blackburn, Shelia.
The Punishment of Incest Act 1908 - a case study of law creation.
CRIMINAL LAW REVIEW, 1979. pp. 708-718.
--
Ianthe Duende
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:56:11 +0100
From: Gert Hekma <hekma@pscw.uva.nl>
Subject: Re: Mayan homoeroticism
Andrew,
there is also a very long French language essay in Caravelle 55 (1990) pp.
19-52 by Guilhem Olivier on homosexuality in Meso-America at the time of
the Spanish conquest. I suppose it will include some material on Mayan
homosexuality.
Gert Hekma
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:33:35 -0500
From: gsavage <gsavage@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Subject: RE: 2)trials
My article, "Erotic Stories and Public Decency" on the passage of the 1926
statute that prohibited the publication of details of divorce casses discusses
the influence of high profile divorce cases during the 1920s. See The
Historical Journal (June 1998).
Gail Savage
History Department
St. Mary's College of Maryland
glsavage@osprey.smcm.edu
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From: "LJ Hall, Historical Studies" <Lisa.J.Hall@bristol.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:42:52 +0000
Although as has been pointed out the notion of an 'age of consent'
is a somewhat vague and shifting concept my own research indicates
quite a clear body of statutes where in operation throughout the
nineteenth century, although a great deal of confusion does seem to
surround the issue.
Technically, the age of consent to sexual intercourse for girls
was 12 until 1875. This dates back in effect to 1275, when
forcible rape was made a felony, under the same action, carnal
knowledge of a girl beneath the legal age of marriage was constructed
as a 'misdemeanour'. Confusion seemed to arise under Elizabethan law
where it becomes somewhat uncertain as to whether sexual intercourse
with a girl under the age of 12 was to be considered as statutory rape
and therefore a felony, or whether as many commentators suggest this
category only applied to girls beneath the age of ten. This seems to
be a question of confusion between the notion of common and statute
law. It seems fairly safe to suggest that this 'common law' age of
consent of 10 was generally disregarded in the 19th c. and early
Victorian legal experts uniformly regard 12 as the legal age of
consent. The Offences Against the Person Acts of 1828 and 1861, state
that carnal knowledge of a female beneath the age of 12 was unlawful.
Apparently the law changes slightly in 1875, when the Amendment
to the Offences Against the Person Act, redefines the age of consent
for girls as 13. Confusion arises it seems mainly around the notions
of 'felony' and 'misdemeanour' which in some respects mirror the old
discrepancies between statute and common law, so even today
differences exist in how perpetrators are prosecuted depending on
whether the girl in question is above or below the age of 13.
Your other question regarding an 'age of consent' for boys with
regards to homosexual acts, is one I have been very interested in
myself. My own research seems to suggest that although officially it
is difficult to fit the notion of a homosexual age of consent into the
structure of 19th c. law, it did seem to be a concept recognised by
the courts. It was noted by a legal expert,for which I can't find the
source right now, that if a case of sodomy involved a boy under 14
only the 'agent' could be tried for a felony. Case law in general
seems to support this notion that young boys could not give consent to
acts of 'indecent assualt'. If I remember rightly, this age of 14,
interestingly older than the female age of consent, corresponds to the
age of 'criminal responsibility' in some categories.
Although as far as i am aware the Labouchere amendment makes no
explicit reference to age, earlier precedents were continued as far as
case law is concerned.
Sorry if this is a little garbled, and reiterates much of what the
other respondant says...
----------------------
LJ Hall, Historical Studies
Lisa.J.Hall@bristol.ac.uk
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From: "Chenier, Elise" <echenier@indiana.edu>
Subject: FW: orientalism and sexual perversion
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:43:26 -0500
Some excellent work in this area has been undertaken by Canadian
historians. On the Chinese, see Madge Pon's "Like a Chinese Puzzle: The
construction of Chinese Masculinity in _Jack Canuck_" in Gender and
History in Canada, ed. Joy Parr and Mark Rosenfeld Toronto: Copp Clark,
1996.
On trials as spectacle, see chapter 4 - "Spectacle, Scandal and Spicy
Stories" - in Karen Dubinsky's _Improper Advances: Rape and Heterosexual
Conflict in Ontario, 1880-1929_ Chicago: University of Chicago Press,
1993.
You might also want to have a look at an essay by Carolyn Strange in a
collection titled _Gender Conflicts_, published by U of Toronto Press.
Unfortunately I don't have it here wth me to give a full citation.
Finally, historian Joan Sangster has also published journal articles
based on her research into court trials and contests for power in cases
involving assault and abuse against women and/or divorce (sorry to be so
vague).
Hope this helps!
Elise Chenier
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Zoetanya Sujon" <zsujon@hotmail.com>
Subject: conducting research into the sex industry
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:11:22 GMT
Hi Everyone,
I have a question that is not necessarily historical in nature, but I'm
hoping that all of your expertise and experience in the field of sexuality
and sex research can help. I'm interested in finding out some information
about the phone sex industry. Particularly, how prevalent phone sex
business are (particularly in the US and Canada - but any information for
any country / city would be great), how much money they generate . . . I'm
just curious as to how big this industry is.
Any help or ideas concenring where I can go to research this information
would be very very helpful.
Many Thanks,
Zoe Sujon
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:42:49 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lucy Bland <l.bland@unl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 2)trials
Thank you so much Lesley, I shall seek out Disorder in the Courts
- sounds perfect! Love Lucy
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:58:23 +0000 Lesley Hall <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
wrote:
Lucy Bland
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:47:49 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lucy Bland <l.bland@unl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 1)orientalism and sexual perversion; 2)trials
Daer Ivan,
Many thanks - I have only seen the copy in the British Library which is
dated 1916, I think. It contains the Sotadic Zone section, but it is very
brief.
Lesly Hall tells me that you are going to be over here in the summer;
hope to meet you at last, although I will probably see you at the
Amsterdam conference in April.
best wishes Lucy
ps. Sorry - I think you will be getting the whole thing back - and I
meant to restrict to just a reply.
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:55:27 +1100 (EST) Ivan Crozier
<I.Crozier@scifac.usyd.edu.au> wrote:
Lucy Bland
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:27:11 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lucy Bland <l.bland@unl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: RE: 2)trials
Dear Gail Savage,
Thank you very much for the reference. In your work on divorce cases, I
wondered whether you had come across cases where the woman is demanding
divorce on the basis of adultery plus sodomy? How was the latter referred
to - as "unnatural and disgusting practices"? And was its illegality ever
referred to? Incidentally, do you know if buggery is still cited as a
ground for divorce? In fact do you know what the law on buggery now is?
All legal cases of accusation of sodomy that I know of have involved men
with men, but presumably men were charged and convicted of sodomy with
women or animals. Sorry for all the questions!
I heard you speak at the Brityish Studies conference in Monterray, Autumn
1997, and very much enjoyed your paper.
Best wishes Lucy Bland
Dr Lucy Bland
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___________________________________________________________________
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:33:20 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lucy Bland <l.bland@unl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: FW: orientalism and sexual perversion
Daer Elise Chenier,
Thanks for all those very useful references, none of which I knew of.
Best wishes
Lucy Bland
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:09:12 -0700 (MST)
From: Tim Hodgdon <Tim.Hodgdon@asu.edu>
Subject: Re: conducting research into the sex industry
Ms Sujon:
For the USA, you might try to locate a library with access
to one of the online business directories, marketed under
the trade names WorldScope and ReferenceUSA. These permit
quite sophisticated searching by locale, business type, and
other criteria. I don't know whether they will identify a
discrete category for your search, but they are the best
tool available (short of someone else already having done
the research). Keep in mind, however, that these businesses
are often transient, and that virtually all of these
companies are privately owned, and so information about them
is quite sketchy compared to that available for publicly
owned enterprises.
Tim Hodgdon
Ph.D. candidate
Department of History
Arizona State University
Tim.Hodgdon@asu.edu
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: RE: 2)trials
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:22:38 -0000
? Incidentally, do you know if buggery is still cited as a
>ground for divorce? In fact do you know what the law on buggery now is?
I'm not sure if it still features in divorce cases - since divorce law is so
much more liberal and 'no-fault' now - but heterosexual buggery was
decriminalised a few years ago. It was part of either a Criminal Law or
Sexual Offences Amendment Act, but this particular clause does not seem to
have had much publicity! Someone else on the list may have better details
about this??
Lesley
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:47:44 -0500
From: gsavage <gsavage@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Subject: RE: 2)trials
Lucy, I have found several examples of sodomy as partial grounds for divorce
during the 19th century. Most of these involved husbands committing sodomy
upon their wives--the petitions use a number of different descriptive terms
but the word "unnatural" was common--and this behavior was readily accepted by
the court under the rubric of cruelty. I have found only two that referred to
husbands committing sodomy with other men, but one of these was the famous
case involving Frank Russell and his first wife, which he successfully
defended, although this of course left him, very unhappily, married to her.
There is an essay on the Russell divorce case by Ann Holmes in Disorder in the
Court and I have written about Frank Russell in an essay published in
Russell:the Journal of hte Bertrand Russell Archives , 16 (summer 1996):
67-84.
All the best, Gail
Gail Savage
History Department
St. Mary's College of Maryland
glsavage@osprey.smcm.edu
___________________________________________________________________
Subject: Humor: Spoof on White House Sexcapades
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:13:44 -0800
From: "andrei-f" <andrei-f@goplay.com>
Opera: "A White House Affair (L'Blanca Casa Scandola)"
Authored by Ruth M. Dahlke, D.M.A.
Professor of Music
Moorhead State University
Duluth, MN
Act 1:
Bill Clinton has just been elected president and
Republicans are in shock. As the curtain rises, House
Republicans are meeting with Ken Starr, plotting to find
some way to remove Clinton from office.
The opening chorale, "We must find a way (Creatio
grandissimo floozi scandala)."
The following recitative, sung by Tom DeLay, is "Where
will we find a helper? (Dredgi uppulia una Granda
Bimba)." The Republicans exit.
Paula Jones enters (stage right) with a mirror, singing
her plaintive "Why can't I find a man? (Mi schnoz es
humongo)."
Tom DeLay and Newt Gingrich enter (stage left). As they
spot Paula, they sing a duet: "Why not her? (La flooza
perfecta)."
They take Paula to a small cafe where they hatch their
plot in hushed tones. Paula tells them of her meeting in
a hotel with Clinton years earlier and how her fortunes
have collapsed since then. DeLay and Gingrich offer to
help. They sing the aria: "Your luck has changed
(Nozjobbo es rewardo)."
Act 2:
The House Republicans reconvene with the news of Paula's
revelations. They sing in jubilation: "We must tell the
world (Phono tabloido)."
The rear curtain rises to reveal the Chorus of Media
which sings the chorale, "Tell us more, but only the
truth (Sexio scandala hypo sweepi)." Gingrich enters
with Pat Robertson. They sing the duet: "He must go
(Hypocriti pious crapolla)."
Robertson offers to make time on his television program
to expose the charges. At the House Republicans'
suggestion, Paula initiates a lawsuit. The scandal
becomes the country's topic of conversation.
The Chorus of Lawyers enters (stage right) to sing the
jubilant grand chorale: "We must do our duty (Multi,
multi grande moolah)."
Ken Starr meets with House Republicans to plan their
next move. They sing the aria: "We will save the country
(Sleezi connivo)."
Starr promises to convene a grand jury which will send
the charges to Congress. He sings "The truth will be
known (Whitewater non starto, probo la flooz epidemio)."
The Chorus of Lawyers sings a reprise of "We must do our
duty" as the Act ends.
Act 3:
Linda Tripp enters (stage left) arm-in-arm with Ken
Starr. She is wearing a headset. She is singing: "Monica
is my dearest friend (Mi es la wiccida witchi
occidenta)."
She tells Starr about the secret tapes that she has made
of conversations with Monica Lewinsky. Starr takes them
from her and sings: "We have got him now (Presidente
droppo pantoloni)." Starr hurries off to the Grand Jury
to call Monica as a witness.
Monica enters the grand jury room where the Chorus of
Lawyers asks her questions. They sing the recitative:
"How did it happen? (Panti thongo, la fashi)."
Monica sings the long passionate aria: "We were meant
for each other. (Non smoko el producto, phalli
symboglio)."
In the third scene, Hilary and Bill are sitting in the
Lincoln Bedroom talking about Monica's revelations.
Hilary sings: "I will stand by you (Tu jercho estupido,
mi remove su equippamento)."
Bill replies with "She was the only one (Non conto
Gennifer, Paula, piu multi bimba forgetta)."
They embrace.
Act 4:
Sam Donaldson is interviewing Henry Hyde in the Capitol
Building. The Chorus of Lawyers hums in the background.
Hyde sings the aria: "We believe in something (Impeacho
hippi bastardo)."
Donaldson sings a recitative in reply: "We only want the
truth (Toupee eslippo)."
The great trial begins in the Senate. Trent Lott reacts
to public opinion polls showing that the president has a
76% approval rating with the poignant aria: "What is
right is not popular (Partia Repubblico committini
suicido)."
The Chorus of Lawyers sings the chorale: "Principles
come first (Mi adultero non conto)."
With great flourish, Henry Hyde, Bill McCollum and Tom
DeLay stand before the Senate to present their case.
They sing the somber trio: "How can you not convict?
(Evidenso multi flimsioso)."
Finally in a moving chorale, the Chorus of Lawyers sing:
"For the good of the nation, we must acquit (Senato non
stupido)."
After the vote is announced, Henry Hyde, Tom DeLay,
Trent Lott and Bill McCollum leave the Senate singing
the grand quartet: "We still know the truth ( Wasto
multi millioni)" as the act ends.
Epilogue:
The president sings the contrite aria: "I am very sorry
(Revengo futuro)."
The Chorus of Media surrounds the president, shouting
their questions and singing "Who will now believe us?
(Publicca degustanta es in media)."
Monica Lewinsky crosses the stage with her new literary
agent, Ken Starr.
They sing: "It is still not over (Publishi grande
bucchi, dollare millionari)" as the curtain falls.
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:29:14 +0000
From: Paula Bartley <fa1912@wlv.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: New member
Dear Alyson
The Public Record Office at Kew has lots of information you might find
useful. I've just been looking at the records on 'white slavery' there
especially for attempts to prevent prostitution in the twentieth century in
England. I think they have some stuff on the Bourne case if I remember.
The best person to ask is Sheila Goalen who is quite wonderful.
I work at Wolverhampton which is not far from you - we have a women's
research support group which you are welcome to join. We also organise the
Women's History Midland Network Conferences if you want to be involved in
that too.
All the best
Paula Bartley
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Alyson Brown" <alyson.brown@luton.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:28:51 gmt
Subject: Re: New member
Dear List members
I am new to this discussion list and am therefore sending a short
summary of my current research. The area I am specifically
interested in is the practice and response to underaged prostitution
in England during the twentieth century. This is an areas which
highlights many of the important social problems and inequalities of
the last hundred years or so (and prior to this, of course).
Economic inequalities as well as those of power, gender and age
underpin under-age prostitution, one of the most overt example of
the exploitation and abuse of children and young people.
Any advice/thoughts or views are always welcome. Specifically,
has anyone come across any discussion of the Bourne Judgement
1938 (other than the case reports in 'The Times'). I understand that
before Dr Alex Bourne undertook to perform an abortion on the 14
year old girl who had been raped by soldier, he kept her under
observation to ensure that she was not 'immoral'?
Regards
___________________________________________________________________ From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: The Bourne case
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:59:06 -0000
This was of course a famous case in the annals of abortion law reform since
it provided a case-law loophole whereby although the operation was still a
statutory offence, doctors could use a degree of medical judgement. It is
discussed in Barbara Brookes' _Abortion in England 1900-1967_ and Hindell
and Sims _Abortion Law Reformed_, and as I recall (as I'm writing from home
I can't look this up!) there are various collections of contemporary press
cuttings among the archives of the Abortion Law Reform Association and the
Family Planning Association held in the Wellcome Library. Bourne was asked
to operate by Dr Joan Malleson of the North Kensington clinic/ALRA, who
always tends to get written out of the story. The girl's youth and the fact
that she had been gangraped were clearly instrumental in the operation being
deemed lawful.
Reports of the case form a subtext (phrases floating through Isa's mind)
in Virginia Woolf's posthumous novel _Between the Acts_.
I have a vague feeling that I once saw an autobiography by Bourne, but I
may be fantasising it! He later became rather anti-abortion.
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Chris Willis" <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: White Slave Traffic
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:26:49 -0000
Hi!
The Metropolitan Police Museum has lots of useful stuff on the White Slave
Traffic too. And there's quite a bit about it in Suffragette newspapers.
All the best
Chris
=========================================
Chris Willis
English Dept
Birkbeck College
Malet Street
London WC1E 7HX
Chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/
=========================================
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From: "Chris Willis" <chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Age of Consent
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:27:36 -0000
Hi!
Many thanks to everyone who replied to my query about hte age of consent.
All the best
Chris
=========================================
Chris Willis
English Dept
Birkbeck College
Malet Street
London WC1E 7HX
Chris@chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk
http://www.chriswillis.freeserve.co.uk/
=========================================
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From: "Alyson Brown" <alyson.brown@luton.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:51:05 gmt
Subject: Re: New member
Dear Paula
Thank you for your reply, I will certainly have a look at those
records. Thank you also for your references to the women's
research groups, I am interested in them and would appreciate it
very much if you could pass on details as to how I might join.
All the best
Alyson
___________________________________________________________________Date: 26 Jan 2000 20:08:43 -0000
From: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex-owner@listbot.com>
Subject: List admin, + media news
1) since we have been getting receipt messages disseminated to the list, I
am putting it temporarily on moderation until this goes away
2) New members (and anyone who has not done so) are invited to introduce
themselves and their interests in history of sexuality to the list
3) Members who were on the list last summer may recall my asking for
interesting historical info on the clitoris (now posted on my website
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah/clitoris.htm). This was because I
had been asked to be An Expert for a TV co making a documentary for
Channel 4 (UK), which is finally going out tomorrow, 27th Jan, at 10 pm
GMT at 'The Clitoris Uncovered' first in a 3 part series 'Private Parts'.
It was comprehensively trashed in the Guardian by Mark Lawson on Monday as
sleaze masquerading as social significance, but Time Out is moderately
approving, calling it graphic but not salacious. I understand that it does
include a few snippets of yours truly providing historical information,
with many thanks to the list-members who added to my stock of this. The
programme may be of interest to list members.
Lesley
histsex-owner@listbot.com
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________
From: Mal123nash@aol.com
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:41:40 EST
Subject: Re: K.H. Ulrichs in Spanish
Dear Historians,
I'd like to call your attention to the fact that the Ulrichs' webpage
(Celebration 2000) is available in Spanish:
http://www.angelfire.com./fl3/celebration2000/spanish.html
The site is an invitation to celebrate Ulrichs' jubilee birthday anniversary
in August, as well as a short history of his life and works, with
illustrations.
With best wishes,
Michael Lombardi-Nash, Ph.D.
___________________________________________________________________
From: "NICK FISHER" <FisherN@Cardiff.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:12:28 GMT0BST
Subject: Re: introduction: Greek sexuality
Hello all,
As one who has been on and enjoyed the list for some time, I am
finally shamed into self-introduction. I teach Ancient History at
Cardiff, especially classical Greek social history, and have recently
completed for OUP a translation, introduction and commentary on
Aeschines' speech of the 340s BC, claiming that his political rival
Timarchos was ineligible to operate as an active politician as (inter
alia) he had operated as a virtual male prostitute in his youth -
hence our most informative single text for laws and attitudes to
male homosexual behaviour in classical Athens.
Best wishes
Nick Fisher
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Gangoli,G" <G.Gangoli@lse.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: new member introduces herself!
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:43:39 -0000
Dear list members,
I work on issues around prostitution, trafficking, sexuality and law in
contemporary India. A short summary of my work follows. Any suggestions etc.
are welcome.
Regards
Geetanjali Gangoli.
PROSTITUTION: Issues of Work, Sexuality And Displacement.
I have been conducting research on issues around prostitution in India. As a
part of my ongoing research, I have interviewed sex workers in Calcutta and
Bombay. In Calcutta and Bombay, I have also conducted interviews with Non
Government Organisations (NGOs) working with sex workers, e.g., Sanlaap in
Calcutta and Prerana in Bombay. In addition, I have collected data from and
spoken to representatives from the National Commission for Women, the
Central Social Welfare Board and National Health Programmes. The latter
include the National Programme for the control of Sexually Transmitted
Diseases (STDs), the National AIDS control programme and the Ministry of
Health and Family Welfare. Through these interviews as well as looking at
official documentation, I have tried to gauge official attitudes to
prostitution and health issues.
Debates around sex work are hardly ever through the prism of the principal
players, that is, sex workers. Whether it is the contentious issue of
HIV/AIDS, or the more tangled one of sexuality, the discourse is shaped by
official views on the matter. The lives of sex workers need to be documented
from their perspective, for as a marginalised section of society, their
views and perspectives are rarely heard.
I have found that where the question of reproductive health and prostitution
has been raised, it has been in the context of AIDS-HIV prevention effort.
Sex workers are identified as a "high risk" category as far as HIV infection
is concerned. While it may be partially true that the nature of their work
makes sex workers vulnerable to various infections, locating them as a high
risk group has some limitations. One, it stigmatises a category of women who
are already marginalised. Secondly, the limited data on HIV shows that
frequency of intercourse with an infected partner is a risk factor in
transmitting HIV and Pelvic Inflammatory Diseases. Other than these medical
considerations, focus on sex workers as potential carriers has led to
appalling human rights violations. In Maharashtra, a bill floated in 1994
proposes forcible testing of sex workers for STDs and branding of those who
test positive.
I suggest that there is a need to expand debates around sex workers beyond
AIDS and HIV infection. I would like to study how some specific issues
affect prostituted women. The official discourse on reproductive health
focuses on the family as the basic units for intervention. What are the
experiences of sex workers in accessing reproductive health care? What is
the nature of health care available to sex workers in "red-light" areas? How
are they treated by public and private sector doctors? Is there an in built
bias against sex workers as they are deviant and single women? What does
child bearing and motherhood mean to prostituted women?
I would also like to examine attitudes to sexuality and sexual behavior. It
might be interesting to look at how women in the profession perceive these
issues. Preliminary interviews with sex workers in Delhi and Calcutta reveal
that while many sex workers are outside the margins of conventional family,
and marriage systems, they are often attached to one partner, and hold to
the ideals of faithfulness to their partner, and monogamy. They make a
distinction between their clients, and their partners. A connected question
is whether women in the profession look at prostitution as work, or as being
trapped into sexual slavery? Do they make a distinction between sex work and
sexuality? This can feed into on going debates on issues of legalisation
versus decriminalisation versus status quo. How far have these questions
been taken up by unions and NGOs while working with prostituted women? To
what extent will these issues be highlighted and grappled with if the demand
for legalisation-made by some unions-is met? It might be useful to look at
how other unions-dealing with workers in the organised sector -- look at
the issue of treating prostitution as sex work.
What are the factors pushing women and girls into prostitution? Issues of
trafficking need to be addressed here, which would form a part of the push
factors. Are the images of coercive prostitution that forms such a large
part of media debates on trafficking between and within countries in South
Asia entirely relevant? In India, anti prostitution laws focus on preventing
trafficking, and India has been the signatory to international conventions
to prevent trafficking between nations. Prostitution is projected as the
result of criminal nexus, and /or 'immoral' life styles of some communities.
There is a need instead to focus on the overall economic trends in South
Asia, where liberalization and globalisation has contributed to a
destruction of the traditional production base, increasing impoverishment
and shrinking options for men and women. This has pushed rural populations
to migrate to urban centres within and outside their countries.
Impoverishment has also led to an increase in trafficking of those most
vulnerable, that is women and children.
Connected to this is the issue of rehabilitation and repatriation of
trafficked women and children to the country of their origin. Experiences of
women of Nepalese origin working in red light areas in Bombay repatriated to
Nepal after raids reveals that forced repatriation can perhaps be as
traumatic as trafficking itself. Following raids, women and children are
kept in shelter homes, which are run like jails. Reintegration into families
of the women once they reach their home country is not always possible.
Given the moral and social stigma attached to sex work, it is not difficult
to understand why women and sometimes children are not accepted back by
their families. Often, they end up being trafficked all over again. The
issue of trafficking involves questions of national boundaries, and
citizenship, within which the rights of women in the sex trade are often
ignored and sidelined.
In short, the areas that I will address will be: official perceptions on sex
work and health issues, questions of trafficking and citizenship, within
which some women are excluded from the rights discourse, the perceptions of
sex workers regarding some areas of their lives, i.e., sexuality, work and
family. I will also attempt a tentative analysis of the ways in which these
questions are taken up by and impact the organising of sex workers through
unions and NGOs.
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From: "Dr Gail Hawkes" <G.Hawkes@mmu.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:10:54 +0100
Subject: re greek sexuality
, and have recently
completed for OUP a translation, introduction and commentary on
Aeschines' speech of the 340s BC, claiming that his political rival
Timarchos was ineligible to operate as an active politician as (inter
alia) he had operated as a virtual male prostitute in his youth -
hence our most informative single text for laws and attitudes to male
homosexual behaviour in classical Athens.
Dear Nick - I'd be interested - title and availability? Sounds great
Gail
Dr Gail Hawkes
Department of Sociology
Manchester Metropolitan University
Tel: +44 (0) 161 247 3464
Fax. +44 (0) 161 247 6321
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:23:56 -0500
From: Betsey Brada <bbbrada@hsph.harvard.edu>
Subject: REPROTECH Vol. II, Issue I
DISCUSSING REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH AND TECHNOLOGY AT THE MILLENIUM
Vol. II, Issue I February 2000
Welcome to this issue of ReproTech, the news service of the Global
Reproductive Health Forum at Harvard. This news source aims to keep you
informed about the latest news, research and discussion in the field of
reproductive health.
If you have any information you would like to add to the next newsletter
or
if you would like to send any materials for us to put on-line, please
us at: grhf@hsph.harvard.edu.
In this Issue:
I. New Forum:
- Women of Color Web
II. More New Original Research from India
III. Coming Soon: New South Asia Site & New Forums
- Dowry
- Crimes Against Women
- Domestic Violence
You can access all this material from our website at
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf
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I. NEW FORUM: WOMEN OF COLOR WEB
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New Women of Color Web!!!
The Global Reproductive Health Forum @ Harvard launches Women of Color
Web
--http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/WoC -- an exciting on-line initiative
that offers an electronic space to explore the intersection of gender
and
"race" on topics such as feminism, sexuality, and reproductive health
and
rights. The web site brings together critical scholarship with
contemporary Internet resources and provides access to full-length
scholarly articles, book chapters, critical essays, and links to related
resources.
The Women of Color Web is dedicated to providing access to writings by
and
about women of color in the U.S. The site also provides links to
organizations, discussion lists, and academic tools concerned
specifically
with women of color.
Some examples...
*The Politics of Black Feminist Thought*
by Patricia Hill Collins
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/WoC/feminisms/collins1.html
*A Countryless Woman: The Early Feminista*
by Ana Castillo
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/WoC/feminisms/ch1castillo.html
*Slaying the Dragon Lady: Toward an Asian American Feminism*
by Sonia Shah
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/WoC/feminisms/shah.html
*Ending Female Sexual Oppression*
by bell hooks
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/WoC/sexualities/hooks.html
*African American Women and Abortion*
by Loretta Ross
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/WoC/reproductive/ross.html
Check all these resources out at
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/WoC
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II. NEW ORIGINAL RESEARCH FROM INDIA
===============================
Every month we publish over 20 new articles together with SNDT and CWDS
libraries in India, this is in addition to our previous collections of
hundred's of works-- discussing such topics as prenatal technology,
reproductive technologies and culture, contraceptive morbidity,
population
projections, health care, and public policy at the South Asia Global
Reproductive Health Forum at
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/SAsia/forum.html
A sampling of some titles for this month:
*SNDT: Gender and Health
Rural Women Take Reproductive Health Matters Into Their Own Hands: Rural
Women's Social Education Center.
Sokhi, Sangeeta Subramanian.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/SAsia/suchana/1028/rh087.html
*SNDT: Abortion
Induced Abortions and Subsequent Reproductive Behaviour Among Women in
Urban Areas of Nepal. Social Change.
Tamang, Anand
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/SAsia/suchana/1028/rh368.html
*SNDT: Health Care
The Quality of Care in the Sterilization Camps of Uttar Pradesh. In
Improving Quality of Care in India's Family Welfare Programme: The
Challenge Ahead.
Townsend, John W.; Khan, M.E.; Gupta, R. B.:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/SAsia/suchana/1119/rh394.html
*SNDT: Contraceptive Practices
The Lactational Amenorrhoea Method For Birth Spacing in Uttar Pradesh,
India
Caleb, Leila E.; Townsend, John W.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/SAsia/suchana/1299/h001.html
*SNDT: Fertility
Fertility Decline in Andhra Pradesh: A Search for Alternative
Hypotheses.
James, K S.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/SAsia/suchana/1299/h006.html
*SNDT: Fertility:
Social and Cultural Influences on Fertility Behaviour
Hari Mohan Mathur
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/SAsia/suchana/1299/h043.html
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III. COMING SOON: NEW SOUTH ASIA SITE & NEW FORUMS
===============================
We have been re-designing the South Asia Forum to accommodate its size
and
new sections and materials that we'll be adding in the course of the
year.
The new site will also be much easier to navigate.
We will also add new forums that will contain full-text articles
focusing
on research findings and analysis, legal documents, and resources (e.g.,
organizations, bibliographies, statistics) specific to the South Asian
region such. Some of the forums include:
** Dowry
** Domestic Violence
** Crimes Against Women
** Injectable Contraceptives
The new South Asia Forum website will be up in mid-February.
You can access the current the South Asia Forum at:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/grhf/SAsia/forum.html
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From: "Stevenson, Kim" <kim.stevenson@ntu.ac.uk>
Subject: Another introduction
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:30:49 -0000
Dear all, just a quick intro from another new subscriber. My name is Kim
Stevenson and I teach law at Nottingham Trent University including a final
year option module Sexuality and the Law. I have also been researching
sexual offences in the Victorian period and in particular the lack of any
feminine voice in the debates of the 1861 and 1885 Acts and repeated again
in the virtually total consolidation of the Sexual Offences Act 1956 - given
the current review of the law relating to sexual offences I can only hope
that this time it will be different! I have also come across one or two
horrific rapes involving a number of attackers - in particular a gang of 9
men systematically raped one women in the Forest of Dean and curiously
twenty years later there is a report of a very similiar attack in the same
area and same time of the year. I wonder whether rural sexual violence in
the C19 has been considered much?
Think that will do for now
Dr Kim Stevenson
Senior Lecturer in law
Dept of Academic Legal Studies
Nottingham Trent University
Burton Street Nottingham
0115 8482266
Kim.Stevenson@ntu.ac.uk
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From: "LJ Hall, Historical Studies" <Lisa.J.Hall@bristol.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:50:43 +0000
Subject: Re: Another introduction
Dr Stevenson,
Could I just ask you if the case you refer to - " a gang
of men systematically raped one woman" - is the case of Anne
Keystone?, which is cited in an article by Anna Clarke. Clarke seems
to be the only author I have come across who deals specifically with
rural sexual violence in the 19th c., and, of course, confines herself
to the first half. I am currently researching towards a PhD in a very
similar area to that which you mention and have read your article on
the internet - 'Observations on the Law Relating to Sexual Offences'
(I think that's the title?) and would just like to say how helpful I
found it. Thank You.
----------------------
LJ Hall, Historical Studies
Lisa.J.Hall@bristol.ac.uk
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:20:12 +0000 (GMT)
From: Sophia Parker <sophia.parker@magdalen.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Another introduction
Hi there all,
sorry to use the list to track individuals down but I would
like to get in touch with Alison Oram - I have a feeling she is on the
list, but if she isn't, can anyone else tell me how I can get hold of her?
Any help would be much appreciated!
Incidentally, I am looking for sources on cross-dressing women in Britain
at the start of the twentieth century. I'm very much at the start of the
project, so if anyone else has any suggestions, either about sources or
other useful reading, I'd be keen to hear from them.
Best wishes,
Sophia.
___________________________________________________________________
Sophia Parker
Magdalen College
Oxford OX1 4AU
01865 310 189
sophia.parker@magd.ox.ac.uk
___________________________________________________________________
From: The Fawcett Library <fawcett@lgu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Another introduction
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:30:33 +0000 (GMT)
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:20:12 +0000 (GMT) Sophia Parker
<sophia.parker@magdalen.oxford.ac.uk> wrote:
> Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
>
> Hi there all,
> sorry to use the list to track individuals down but I would
> like to get in touch with Alison Oram - I have a feeling she is on the
> list, but if she isn't, can anyone else tell me how I can get hold of her?
Alison's at University College, Northampton.
> Any help would be much appreciated!
> Incidentally, I am looking for sources on cross-dressing women in Britain
> at the start of the twentieth century. I'm very much at the start of the
> project, so if anyone else has any suggestions, either about sources or
> other useful reading, I'd be keen to hear from them.
> Best wishes,
> Sophia.
As usual, _Amazons and military maids_ is probably a good
starter, if you don't know it.
David Doughan, Reference Librarian
The Fawcett Library (The National Library of Women)
fawcett@lgu.ac.uk
http://www.lgu.ac.uk/fawcett/main.htm
Phone: 0171 320 1189
Fax: 0171 320 1188
_________________
"Gentlemen and dogs not allowed beyond
the vestibule" (Sign at Pioneer Club, London, ca. 1892)
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Museum of Sex NY
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:14:52 -0000
I have just discovered that this has just been set up - the website is =
at http://www.museumofsex.org/ver1/default.htm
(be warned: it comes up with sound effects...)
Does anyone know anything about it? The Board of Advisors looks a bit =
thin on historians, at least any names I recognise.
Any further info welcomed
Lesley
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:23:55 +0000
From: Ianthe <ianthe@duende.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Vita Sexualis - 1939 sexology manual tranlated from Polish - now on web.
I just found the full text (500Kb +) of this book
in English, uploaded 16-Jan-2000, on the web:
DR. PAWEL KLINGER
_V I T A S E X U A L I S - THE TRUTH ABOUT HUMAN SEX LIFE_
Amended Third Edition, WARSAW 1939,
Translated from Polish by Jerzy Klinger
http://www.erosinstitute.com/library/contributions/vita14.html
--
Ianthe Duende
___________________________________________________________________ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:51:41 -0600
From: "M.E. Buszek" <buszekme@chickmail.com>
Subject: Re: Museum of Sex NY
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:14:52 Lesley Hall wrote:
>I have just discovered that this has just been set up - the website is at http://www.museumofsex.org/ver1/default.htm
>(be warned: it comes up with sound effects...)
>Does anyone know anything about it? The Board of Advisors looks a bit thin on historians, at
least any names I recognise.
The New York Times recently published an article on the museum, which is apparently one of the few in New York City to be completely self-supporting, accepting no money from government sources. (Particularly important considering the brou-ha-ha over the British -Sensation- show and NYC's partial funding of the show.)
Considering its self-supporting agenda, it shouldn't be surprising that its board of advisors is comprised mostly of "celebrities," presumably to draw popular interest in the place. However, I found that having individuals such as Valerie Steele (fashion historian who has done interesting feminist work on fetish clothing) was heartening.
Apparently, they don't actually have a permanent building yet, but will be launching an
inaugural exhibition in a temporary space within the year. I will be sure to keep the list posted in
the event that I read any more about the museum!
Maria-Elena Buszek
Ph.D. Candidate/GMOF Fellow
Kress Foundation Department of Art History
The University of Kansas
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From: "Stevenson, Kim" <kim.stevenson@ntu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Another introduction
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:46:13 -0000
Dear Lisa, many thanks for response -no the two cases i've come across are
not the one that you mention - i have a chapter coming out in a book ed by
Shani d'cruz Unguarded Passions, Gender Class and Everyday Violence in
Britain 1850 -1950 later this year entitled 'Ingenuities of the Female Mind:
legal and Public Perceptions of Sexual Violence in Victorian England
1850-1890' Lucy Bland, Louise Jackson and Anna Clark are also contributing -
I started the chapter with these two cases but didnt take up the issue of
rural sexual violence though it is something that Shani picked up on as an
idea for further research - I've done a trawl of some 200 plus cases from
The Times and these are the two most brutal in terms of numbers of offenders
- but also a number where respectable young girls attacked on their way home
across fields or waylaid! Let me know how you're getting on it could be
quite an interesting area to pursue! Regards Kim
to the first half. I am currently researching towards a PhD in a very
similar area to that which you mention and have read your article on
the internet - 'Observations on the Law Relating to Sexual Offences'
(I think that's the title?) and would just like to say how helpful I
found it. Thank You.