HISTSEX ARCHIVES: September 2000

© Lesley Hall and list contributors

From: "Rictor Norton" <norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Introduction: Queering the Medieval Apocalypse

Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:23:32 +0100

To Noreen Giffney,

You might find it worthwhile to subscribe to the Medieval Gay Discussion

Group. Postings to it are not very frequent, but quite good when they occur.

It's part of an American medieval gay organization, who I think are

currently attending a medieval gay conference, so their reports and comments

will be flowing soon.

Send the message

SUBSCRIBE MEDGAY-L My Name [i.e. your name, upper & lower case]

to

LISTSERV@LISTSERV.KSU.EDU

--

Rictor Norton, London

mailto:norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk

http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk



___________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:24:17 +0100 (BST)

From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Noreen=20Giffney?= <stheno_gorgon@yahoo.co.uk>

Subject: RE Medieval Gay Discussion

Dear Rictor Norton,

Thanks for the information - I shall subscribe to the

list now.

Noreen Giffney

University College Dublin

E-mail: stheno_gorgon@yahoo.co.uk



___________________________________________________________________From: "Rictor Norton" <norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Anne Fausto-Sterling's Sexing the Body

Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:57:52 +0100



Michael Murphy in an earlier posting mentioned the work of Anne

Fausto-Sterling. I attach a favourable review of her latest book _Sexing the

Body_. The reviewer is Marc Breedlove, noted for his work on lesbian

finger-length ratios.

--

Rictor Norton, London

mailto:norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk

http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk



http://www.nejm.org/content/2000/0343/0009/0668.asp

The New England Journal of Medicine -- Vol. 343, No. 9

August 31, 2000

BOOK REVIEW

Sexing the Body: Gender Politics and the Construction of Sexuality

By Anne Fausto-Sterling. 485 pp., illustrated. New York, Basic Books,

2000. $35. ISBN 0-465-07713-7

Reviewed by S. Marc Breedlove, Ph.D.

Poised to cast the deciding vote in a Salisbury, Connecticut, election in

1843, "Levi S." was charged with being a woman and therefore ineligible. A

doctor found that Levi had a penis and therefore a vote. But later it was

revealed that Levi also had a vagina and menstruated regularly. What to

do? Today we may be amused at 19th century conundrums concerning an

intersexual person in a society in which only men held the right to vote.

But modern America still requires citizens to be either male or female,

and the institution that enforces this dichotomy with respect to babies is

medicine, with the use of scalpels, sutures, and until very recently,

sublime confidence. Physicians measure the intersexual newborn's phallus,

and unless it is longer than 3 cm, shorten it to a more demure, clitoral

length and perform whatever additional surgeries are needed to declare

"it's a girl."

The primary attack on these decisions has come from intersexual adults who

express dissatisfaction with the surgeries that were performed on them as

children and who ask whether children's welfare is truly the goal of this

sex policing. Physicians, on the other hand, may well feel that society

demands that children be either boys or girls and that the schoolyard will

brutally punish any deviance from these categories.

In this fascinating new book, Anne Fausto-Sterling describes these and

many other troublesome issues that face our society when people refuse to

fit the category of heterosexual man or heterosexual woman. A scholarly

book with more than 120 pages of notes, its 255 pages of text nevertheless

read like a bestseller. Fausto-Sterling reviews the history of ideas about

sex and sex roles in the 20th century with authority and balance. She

relates Johns Hopkins urologist Hugh Young's 1937 descriptions of

intersexual people who grew up before the advent of corrective surgery.

Young found these people, even the person working as a sideshow freak

("male and female in one"), to be well-adjusted and reasonably happy

adults, many with active sex lives. Fausto-Sterling also reviews the case

of John/Joan, a child who gravitated later to Johns Hopkins with widely

reported, disastrous results. She points out that intersexual newborns are

not rare (they may account for 1.7 percent of live births), so a review of

our attitudes about these children is overdue, and her book provides an

excellent framework for the ongoing debates.

Fausto-Sterling digs deeper than current medical practice to investigate

the basic sciences that guide and inform medicine. The scientists

searching for steroid hormones had such abiding faith that male and female

are antithetical conditions that they stumbled repeatedly. First, they

refused to see that each steroid hormone naturally occurs and functions in

both sexes. Next, they insisted that "male" hormones (androgens) must act

antagonistically to "female" hormones (estrogens), when in fact they often

work in a coordinated fashion.

The author also scrutinizes the work of early behavioral endocrinologists.

How much of the famous 1959 report from William C. Young's laboratory,

declaring that androgens "organize" the developing brain into a masculine

configuration, was shaped by prevailing attitudes that men and women have

fundamentally different roles in society? Even if the report itself was

untainted by such attitudes, what about the audience that accepted this

idea so enthusiastically? Why did the founder of behavioral endocrinology,

Frank Beach, who performed many similar experiments before the 1959 report

appeared, never formulate this principle explicitly, despite its

apparently tremendous explanatory power? For Fausto-Sterling, Beach was a

hero, untempted by the simple formulation because he was so familiar with

the data, which were replete with the exceptions that investigators still

grapple with today. She sees Beach as open to the idea of sexual behavior

as a continuum in which normal males might occasionally behave like

females, and vice versa. For her, Beach had the independent, clear vision

to see diversity when society sought dichotomy.

Fausto-Sterling is not a radical social constructionist. She repeatedly

insists that nature has a say in the outcome of experiments -- as one

might expect of a geneticist and professor of biology. But she is

persuasive in showing how scientists' social background often affects

their conceptualization of results, their naming of discoveries, and their

decisions about which experiments to perform. Fausto-Sterling is not above

rhetoric. It is plain that she disagrees with certain writers, and she

unabashedly declares her hopes for our political future. In discussing sex

differences in relation to the human brain, she picks on the bedraggled

corpus callosum. In 1982, the corpus callosum was reported to differ

between men and women, but a flurry of subsequent studies convinced

investigators in the field that there is either no sex-based difference in

this brain structure or only a very subtle, hard-to-pinpoint difference.

What for Fausto-Sterling is matter for condemnation of research in human

sex differences could as easily be seen as a validation of the scientific

process.

However, Fausto-Sterling also takes pains to present at least two sides of

every story, and she never fails to credit the intelligence and good

intentions of others, even if, in hindsight, they have made dreadful

mistakes. As physicians, scientists, and other citizens continue to take

stock of ideas about men and women, and boys and girls, in this new

century, Fausto-Sterling's careful and insightful book offers us the

chance to question past assumptions and to dream of new formulations

nearly as radical as allowing women to vote.



___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: A couple of reviews of interest

Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 16:28:46 +0100



Diana O'Hara. Courtship and Constraint: Rethinking the Making of =

Marriage in Tudor England. Politics and Culture in Early Modern Britain. =

Manchester: Manchester University Press, 2000. 300 pages. . $79.95 =

(cloth), ISBN 0-7190-5074-X. Reviewed by Retha M. Warnicke, Department =

of History, Arizona State University.=20

http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=3D25978966636454



David Cressy. Travesties and Transgressions in Tudor and Stuart England. =

Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2000. xii + 351 pp. Notes and Index. =

$35.00 (cloth), ISBN 0-19-820781-6. Reviewed by Susan D. Amussen=20

http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=3D25744966982724

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah





__________________________________________________________________

Subject: CFP: Zap! Pow! Out!: Queer Cultures, Queering Comics

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:34:36 -0500

From: "Michael J. Murphy" <mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu>



**Please print and post/crosspost as needed**

Call For Manuscripts

Zap! Pow! Out!: Queer Cultures, Queering Comics

edited by

Anne N. Thalheimer and Michael J. Murphy

**Deadline for abstracts: 1 December 2000**

Submit a 1-2 page abstract and a short CV to each editor. Electronic or

hardcopy submissions accepted. No email attachments please.

**Deadline for manuscripts: 1 June 2001**

MLA citation style; one electronic or hardcopy to each editor- Word or

WordPerfect versions; please limit text to 25 pages; author responsible

for securing image copyright permissions.

To redress the paucity and disparate state of existing scholarship on

queer comics the editors of this scholarly anthology invite submissions

of original art, interviews, and critical essays on the cultures of gay,

lesbian, bisexual, transgendered and queer comics and related media. The

editors aim to unite the best classic artwork and essays with innovative

and exciting imagery and investigations into queer comic strips, comic

books, graphic novels, zines, manga, film or television anime/ation, and

other related graphic media. Essays which address trans/international

comics, race and hybridity, or queer spectator/readership are especially

encouraged.

Paper topics might include:

-queer (or queered) comics or artists

-gay or dyke comix

-queer comics readers, conventions or fans

-gay and lesbian super heroes: Wonder Woman and other Amazons

-original interviews with notable creators, readers, publishers

-HIV/AIDS or safer sex educative comics

-(anti)homophobia and/or heterosexism in comics

-graphic sex (literally) and pornographic comics

-relationship of queer comics to underground or wimmin¹s comix

-queers in straight comics (Doonesbury, For Better For Worse, The

Simpsons, etc.)

-sexual ambiguity and anonymity in comics

-transnational queer comix -gay liberation and comics

-queer creators, straight comics; vice versa

-race, class, gender, sexuality hybridities in comics

-comparative essays with television, film, art, advertising etc.

Que(e)ries?

Anne N. Thalheimer

Dept. English

212 Memorial Hall

University of Delaware

Newark, DE 19716

Fax: (302) 831 1586

motes@udel.edu



Michael J. Murphy

Dept. Art History/Archaeology

Steinberg Hall

Campus Box 1189

Washington University

St. Louis MO 63130

mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu



___________________________________________________________________

Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 17:55:57 +0100

From: Diane Mason <d.mason@bathspa.ac.uk>

Subject: Auto-Erotic Asphyxia

Although a few well publicised fatalities (Micheal Hutchence etc.)

brought the practice of auto-eroytic asphyxia to public attention in the

twentieth century, I wondered whether the practice was recognised by

physicians, sexologists etc. in the nineteenth century? Or, indeed, is

there any nineteenth-century source on record to suggest that the

feeling of strangulation brings on or enhances sexual excitement?

Krafft-Ebing lists a case of someone who gets a sexual kick out of

throttling people but that is something different entirely. Also, has

anyone got any ideas on how old the practice actually is? I read in

something called The Encyclopaedia of Unusual Sex Practices that it is

thought to be of 'ancient origin' but I wonder how reliable this

information is and what is meant by 'ancient' (Greeks, Romans Cavemen)?

Any thoughts on this would be very much appreciated.

All the best,

Diane



___________________________________________________________________

Date: 10 Sep 2000 11:43:38 -0000

From: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex-owner@listbot.com>

Subject: Introductions, etc



Now that list-members are returning from summer breaks (and I hope

resubscribing if they have unsubscribed for the duration...) I post the

usual occasional request for new members to introduce themselves and their

research interests to the list, or indeed for old members to refresh our

collective memory about them and their work.

Also a reminder about the History of Sexuality Research Register - if you

would like to be entered on this, please e-mail me at

lesleyah@primex.co.uk with your name, affiliation, contact details and

description of research (using, if possible, terms which searchers are

likely to search on). I think I now have the site search engine tweaked so

that it should _only_ search the register and not any extraneous pages on

my site.

Also, if anyone has any information which could usefully be added to the

pages on The Clitoris: Historical Myths and Facts or Literary Abortion,

please do let me know.

Thanks

Lesley

histsex-owner@listbot.com

lesleyah@primex.co.uk



___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: FYI: E-Directory of Lesbigay Scholars

Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:34:19 +0100

Public website for this is at=20

http://newark.rutgers.edu/~lcrew/lbg_edir.html

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah





___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Reviews of interest

Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:32:56 +0100

Originally posted to the H-Law list (and found when I was trying to =

locate 2 reviews of books on the history of divorce in the US x-posted =

to H-Women which don't seem to be on the H-Net Reviews website yet):

Jeffrey Toobin. A Vast Conspiracy: The Real Story of the Sex Scandal =

That Nearly Brought Down a President. New York: Random House, 1999. 422 =

pp. Index. $25.95 (cloth), ISBN 0-375-50295-5.=20

Richard A. Posner. An Affair of State: The Investigation, =

Impeachment,and Trial of President Clinton. Cambridge, Mass: Harvard =

University Press, 1999. xii + 276 pp. Dramatis Personae, Chronology, =

Index. $25.00 (cloth), ISBN 0-674-000080-3.=20

Reviewed by R. B. Bernstein, New York Law School.

http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=3D3266959107705

and=20

Stephen J. Schulhofer. Unwanted Sex: The Culture of Intimidation and the =

Failure of Law. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1998. xii + =

318 pp. Notes, index. $27.95 (cloth), ISBN 0-674-57648-9.=20

Reviewed by Cynthia Harrison, Department of History, The George =

Washington University.

http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=3D1531947257732

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah





___________________________________________________________________From: "Rictor Norton" <norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Re: Auto-Erotic Asphyxia

Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 22:07:12 +0100

Diane Mason asks:

>Although a few well publicised fatalities (Micheal Hutchence etc.)

>brought the practice of auto-eroytic asphyxia to public attention in the

>twentieth century, I wondered whether the practice was recognised by

>physicians, sexologists etc. in the nineteenth century? Or, indeed, is

>there any nineteenth-century source on record to suggest that the

>feeling of strangulation brings on or enhances sexual excitement?

I think this has been familiar to both to prostitutes and to the general

public at least since the early eighteenth century. For example, the

following newspaper report from The Grub-street Journal for 22 October 1730:

"Thursday, Oct. 15. Thursday . . . the master of a night-house without

Temple-bar, went to a lewd house in Parkhurst-lane, and there hanged himself

dead in his garters. ­ Our unfortunate brother The Weekly Register has here

corrupted the original, instead of *lewd house* inserting *Nanny-house*; and

abused a great ornament of our society, the late learned Mr Motteaux, with

the opprobrious appellation of a hanging-cull. A moral Mahometan would have

forborn such a vile reflection upon the dead."

I believe that Ned Ward in The London Spy circa 1709 also talks about

"hanging-culls", men who practice strangulation to achieve erection (which

unfortunately comes to public attention if the experiment is unduly

prolonged).

--

Rictor Norton, London

mailto:norton@rictor.freeserve.co.uk

http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk



___________________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:10:56 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Auto-erotic Asphyxia

Diane Mason asks:

>Although a few well publicised fatalities (Micheal

Hutchence etc.)

>brought the practice of auto-eroytic asphyxia to

public attention in

the

>twentieth century, I wondered whether the practice

was recognised by

>physicians, sexologists etc. in the nineteenth

century? Or, indeed,

is

>there any nineteenth-century source on record to

suggest that the

>feeling of strangulation brings on or enhances sexual

excitement?

There is the Eighteenth century trial surrounding the

death of the mildly successful composer Franz

Kotzwara. See "Modern Propensities; or, an Esssay on

the Art of Strangling" (London c.1792). Kotzwara's

case is discussed by Peter Wagner in his _Eros

Revived_ and there's an article in _Studies on

Voltaire_ circa 1992.

Michael O'Rourke

PhD student

University College Dublin.

___________________________________________________________________

From: "Ian Pitchford" <Ian.Pitchford@scientist.com>

Subject: On the Evolutionary Psychology mailing list, dangerous ideas thrive

Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:44:26 +0100



I hope you will find this article on my evolutionary psychology group to be of

interest and that you will regard this email as an invitation to subscribe. The

group's archives are located at:

http://www.egroups.com/messages/evolutionary-psychology

I am particularly keen to encourage critics of evolutionary psychology to

subscribe to the group.

______



Salon.com

Flameproof racism

On the Evolutionary Psychology mailing list, dangerous ideas thrive -- without

the usual online rancor and hatred.

- - - - - - - - - - - -

By Andrew Brown

Aug. 30, 2000 | Are blacks programmed by their genes to be promiscuous? Can we

read any morality off our genes at all? Is religion pernicious nonsense? The

field of evolutionary psychology attempts to illuminate such inquiries into

human nature with the insights of modern Darwinism. It raises questions that

have a prickly, intense and scary quality. To get inside them is like putting

on a hair shirt with explosives strapped to it. Even in sober academic

journals, the discussion can rapidly become a screaming match. On the Internet,

home of the flame, any attempt at a reasonable discussion seems completely

futile.

Even respectable academic online mailing lists often melt down into reciprocal

accusations of Nazism and censorship, as did the mailing list of the Human

Biology and Evolution Society, the trade body for evolutionary psychologists,

five years ago.

And if the Nazis don't get you, the nutters will. I once watched a list on

Darwinism disintegrate into a series of arguments about Karl Popper's

philosophy of science, a subject that can make otherwise civilized people argue

like fundamentalists who think they have identified the antichrist.

Given the volatility of online debate, the existence, then, of the Evolutionary

Psychology mailing list seems like a miracle. All these unspeakable things and

more are debated there, yet it is actually possible to learn new things -- and

the arguments, however ruthless, are always polite. The list has nearly 2,000

subscribers, among them some of the most distinguished names in the field.

Richard Dawkins was on for a while; Dan Dennett lurks there; and so does

anthropologist Dan Sperber.

Full text:

http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/08/30/evpsych/index.html

Ian Pitchford <Ian.Pitchford@scientist.com>

Centre for Psychotherapeutic Studies

http://www.shef.ac.uk/~psysc/

School of Health and Related Research

University of Sheffield, S10 2TA, UK

http://www.human-nature.com/darwin/index.html



___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Voyeurism/scoptophilia (?sp)

Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:36:52 +0100



Does anyone on the list have any idea when the above appeared as a =

definite sexual perversion? (i.e. that people were noticed spying on =

others in sexual or quasi sexual situations, or that there were =

provisions for paying customers to do this in brothels). I would =

surmise, but may be wrong, that it would either only exist (as something =

which some individuals would specifically seek out) or at least only =

become noticeable, in a society in which privacy had become more =

emphasised and sexual scenes would be less likely to be casually =

encountered. But I'm open to being persuaded otherwise.

Many thanks

Lesley

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah





___________________________________________________________________From: JNKATZ1@aol.com

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:21:11 EDT

Subject: Plenary Session: Future Queer Past

Since I was not able to attend the Plenary Session of the Future of the Queer

Past, I'm interested in any reports people might be interested in making to

these lists.

I'm especially interested in what people feel were repeated themes stressed

by the Plenary speakers.

And I'm especially interested in insights about the problems of getting

inside the historical, social, and mental structures of past constructions of

sexuality and affection.

By the way, does anyone know if the conference or any individual made a tape

of the Plenary that they'd be willing to lend me?

Thanks, Jonathan Ned Katz



___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: Some recent reviews of interest

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:59:42 +0100

Norma Basch. Framing American Divorce: From the Revolutionary Generation =

to the Victorians. Berkeley and Los Angeles: University of California =

Press, 1999. xii + 192 pages. Notes, index. $29.95 (cloth), ISBN =

0-520-21490-0.=20

Hendrik Hartog. Man and Wife in America: A History. Cambridge, Mass: =

Harvard University Press, 2000. vi + 312 pages, 2000. Notes, index. =

$29.95 (cloth), ISBN 0-674-00262-8.=20

Reviewed by Felice Batlan, Department of History, New York University .

http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=3D31143969034759



Lauraine Leblanc. Pretty in Punk: Girls' Gender Resistance in a Boys' =

Subculture. New Brunswick, NJ and London: Rutgers University Press, =

1999. xii + 288 pp. Illustrations, appendices, bibliographical =

references, index. $50.00 (cloth), ISBN 0-8135-2651-5.=20

Reviewed by D. Robert DeChaine, Department of Cultural Studies, The =

Claremont Graduate University .

http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=3D31364969035066



Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah





___________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:29:32 -0700

From: Frank Nobiletti <fnobilet@ucsd.edu>

Subject: Re: Plenary Session: Future Queer Past

Hi Jonathan, I didn't tape the plenary.

Great seeing you.

Frank N.

___________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:23:24 -0700 (PDT)

From: "A. G. McLaren" <amclaren@UVic.CA>

Subject: job ads (fwd)

Here are ads regarding posts at the University of Victoria which members

of the list might be interested in.

Angus McLaren





---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:55:51 -0700

From: Lynne Marks <lsmarks@uvvm.uvic.ca>

To: amclaren@uvic.ca

Subject: job ads

Hi Angus:

Here are the job ads. If you can send them to your history of sexuality

list that would be great. Thanks and all the best, Lynne

Early Modern Europe Appointment

The Department of History at the University of Victoria invites

applications for a tenure-track position in early modern continental

European history at the rank of assistant professor beginning July 1, 2001.

Area of specialization is open. Teaching responsibilities include an

introductory survey on Europe since the Renaissance and senior courses

preferably in the sixteenth and/or seventeenth centuries. Participation in

the Department's M.A. and Ph.D. programs will also be expected. Applicants

should have a completed Ph.D., teaching experience, and demonstrated

research qualifications. The salary floor for assistant professors is

$45,000. Application, curriculum vitae, and at least three letters of

reference should be sent by October 16, 2000 to Dr. Eric W. Sager, Chair,

Department of History, University of Victoria, P.O. Box 3045, Victoria, BC,

Canada V8W 3P4. The History Department's web-site is

http://web.uvic.ca/history/ and the Department's email address is

hist@uvvm.uvic.ca. In accordance with Canadian Immigration requirements,

this advertisement is directed in the first instance to Canadian citizens

and permanent residents. Others are encouraged to apply, but are not

eligible for appointment until a Canadian search is completed and no

appointment made. The University of Victoria is an employment equity

employer and encourages applications from women, persons with disabilities,

visible minorities, and aboriginal peoples.

July 12, 2000







History/Slavonics Appointment

The Departments of History and Slavonics at the University of Victoria

invite applications for a tenure-track position in Russian history and

culture at the rank of assistant professor, beginning July 1, 2001. Area

of specialization is open. Teaching responsibilities include undergraduate

and graduate instruction in Russian and Soviet history and in Russian

culture. Applicants should have a completed Ph.D. and demonstrated

research qualifications. The salary floor for assistant professors is

$45,000. Letters of application, curriculum vitae (including all

university transcripts), and letters from at least three referees should be

sent by October 31, 2000, to Dr. Andrew Rippin, Dean of Humanities,

University of Victoria, P.O. Box 3045, Victoria, BC V8W 3P4. Dr. Rippin's

email is arippin@uvic.ca, and the Humanities web-site is

http://web.uvic.ca/humanities/. In accordance with Canadian Immigration

requirements, this advertisement is directed to Canadian citizens and

permanent residents in the first instance. Others are encouraged to apply,

but are not eligible for appointment until a Canadian search is completed

and no appointment made. The University of Victoria is an employment

equity employer and encourages applications from women, persons with

disabilities, visible minorities, and aboriginal peoples.



___________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:55:43 +0200

From: Jens =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rydstr=F6m?= <jens.rydstrom@historia.su.se>

Subject: Re: Plenary Session: Future Queer Past

Here is a very incomplete account of the discussion in the final plenary of

the conference "The Future of the Queer Past" (University of Chicago 15-18

September 2000) taken from my confused notes. I just came back to Stockholm

and did not get too much sleep on the plane, so excuse me if my memory

fails me sometimes. Perhaps someone else who was at the plenary wishes to

fill in where I have missed or forgot or misunderstood something?

Jens

George Chauncey opened the discussion by pointing out that there was much

less post war community history than he had expected. There was a much

wider variety of topics in the papers. He talked about the necessity to

take in account the historicity of our subject. Transgender history has

opened up understanding for the historicity of the categories. There seems

to be a shift of focus from social history to political history and he

stressed the need for cultural history, international and regional

comparative studies. He talked about what is queer history, queer opening

up a broader understanding of the categories, but we must historicise

"queer" and for instance study the difference and similarities with other

concepts such as "alien". The fact how we all have come together at this

conference shows how we need to study the changes of sexuality in the late

modern era, or something like that.

I have no notes of what Joanne Meyerowitz said, and I only remember that

she said that George had already brought up much of what she was going to

say. Sorry.

Nayan Shah talked about that we must reflect on how we can write history

without falling in a normative trap, and how we can avoid that concepts

like state, period, genre and identity become obstacles for a true

understanding, or something like that.

Alejandra Sarda stressed that she was not a historian but an activist, and,

speaking from the margin, urged a better dialogue between center and

margin, and the necessity of making research which is related to political

cultural and economical factors.

Valerie Traub pointed out how history has moved away from the question of

the birth of the modern homosexual and the divorce or not between sexuality

and gender. Now most papers seemed to concentrate on Modernity, and she

advised people to look further back than to the 19th century to perhaps see

developments that took place much earlier than modern historians tend to

believe.

Ramón Gutierrez talked about how historians still use very conventional

sources, like court records etc, and fail to make use of oral history for

example. They (we) also fail to politicise the archives, be critical of our

own reading practices etc, and we do not use visual or material evidence.

There is also insufficient problematisation of race.

Lisa Duggan made three points. 1. She was happy that so many papers were

written in an interdisciplinary way. She thinks we have to do away with

the traditional disciplinary boundaries, and we have to become aware of how

the institutional structure of US departments of history moulds research in

obsolete categories. 2. The terrorism in US hist depts must end! Mark Stein

has made a survey which shows that people who write dissertations on g/l

history must either leave the country or find other occupations. She

encouraged the creation of a committee of tenured historians (she just got

tenure) to discuss what can be done, and encouraged tenured historians to

e-mail her. 3. We must think about being more visible in the mainstream

media, and not let the right wing monopolise it.

David Halperin talked of the dissolution of the sexual in history research.

We need to explore things such as kinship and its efects on domesticity and

intimacy. Citizenship and other categories such as emotion, affection, or

as Henning Bech has proposed, taste. We need to study economics and not be

afraid of marxist theory.

In the discussion afterwards different points came up, such as the

necessity to produce texts that are readable for undergraduates, so that

they learn their/our history and don't give up when reading theory. When a

man asked a question about the influence of quantum physics on queerness, I

left the room. People told me that much of the discussion after that

evolved around US hist depts and how to do something about the difficulties

of getting jobs for queer scholars.



Jens Rydström tel: +46-8-84 50 60 (h)

Dept of History tel: +46-8-674 71 05 (w)

Stockholm University fax: +46-8-16 75 48 (w)

S-106 91 Stockholm

Sweden

jens.rydstrom@historia.su.se

http://www.historia.su.se/safari/artiklar/rydstrom.htm



___________________________________________________________________

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 04:54:37 -0500

From: Dar Weyenberg <dweyenbe@students.wisc.edu>

Subject: Re: Plenary Session: Future Queer Past

Hello Jens

Thank you very much for taking the time to write up the summary.

It would be helpful if you (or anyone) would explain what is meant by taking

into account the "historicity of our subject" and "the historicity of the

categories".

Thank you

dar





___________________________________________________________________

Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:38:47 +0200

From: Jens =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rydstr=F6m?= <jens.rydstrom@historia.su.se>

Subject: Historicised subjects and categories

Hello Dar,

I think he just meant that we need to be aware of that categories,

especially sexual and gender categories, are historically changing and not

the same at all times, and that the way in which people experience

themselves and define themselves also is depending on the historic

situation in which they live.

Jens



Jens Rydström tel: +46-8-84 50 60 (h)

Dept of History tel: +46-8-674 71 05 (w)

Stockholm University fax: +46-8-16 75 48 (w)

S-106 91 Stockholm

Sweden

jens.rydstrom@historia.su.se

http://www.historia.su.se/safari/artiklar/rydstrom.htm

___________________________________________________________________

Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:24:36 -0500

From: Dar Weyenberg <dweyenbe@students.wisc.edu>

Subject: [histsex] historicity of the term gender



HI Jens et all

Thank you for your response-it was helpful.

I have a another question for you all. Last night someone said in a group

discussion that the term gender was not used until fairly recently. Can

anyone enlighten me on this? Was it used in the 1800's?

Thanks in advance

dar



___________________________________________________________________

From: Kazetnik@aol.com

Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:37:35 EDT

Subject: {Histsex} Re: Introduction

Hi folks

Can I make a smallish request? Could people leave/include the group ident in

their subject lines when they post? There are some nasty viruses, worms and

trojanhorses doing the rounds at the moment coming in e-mails and it helps to

be sure that an e-mail has come from a reliable or known source. Otherwise,

having just restored the PC to some working order after the havoc of a

trojanhorse I'm just deleting mail if I'm in any doubt as to where it came

from. And that's a shame because I don't know what I'm missing!

Chris White

___________________________________________________________________Date: 21 Sep 2000 08:43:55 -0000

From: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex-owner@listbot.com>

Subject: [histsex] Introduction/Identifying list messages

I have - I hope - managed to change the list properties so that all

messages include [histsex] in the subject line, following Chris White's

reminder of the dangers of unknown e-mail.

Welcome to the recent influx of new list members. Please do introduce

yourselves and your interests in the history of sexuality.

Lesley Hall

histsex-owner@listbot.com

lesleyah@primex.co.uk



___________________________________________________________________

Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:45:18 -0400 (EDT)

From: Rups <markin@patriot.net>

Subject: Re: [histsex] {Histsex} Re: Introduction

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 Kazetnik@aol.com wrote:

> their subject lines when they post? There are some nasty viruses, worms and

> trojanhorses doing the rounds at the moment coming in e-mails and it helps to

> be sure that an e-mail has come from a reliable or known source. Otherwise,

Just because you know the source of a message doesn't mean the message is

safe. Viruses come via lists, as well as via messages from good friends,

when said viruses automatically attach themselves to outgoing e-mail

without the sender's being aware of it. Otherwise, about the only way

you'd get one is if the creator of a virus sends it to you directly, which

is not really likely unless you have some nasty enemies out there in

Netland.

Just avoid any e-mail with an attachment, set your mailer NOT to open /

execute attachments automatically, and keep your anti-virus up to date.

Since most viruses appear to be aimed at Microsoft, using its well-known

weaknesses, avoiding anything Microsoftish is a desideratum if you can

manage it. And NEVER run an executable sent to you even by a good friend

unless you are absolutely certain that friend meant to send it to you AND

knows what (s)he's doing AND (s)he and you have both run an antivirus

check on it.

You'll never be 100% safe, but being sensible re: e-mail (and not booting

your computer with a floppy in the drive) will keep you safe enough.

Having the listname in the subject line IS helpful for sorting and

skimming purposes, though, so I thank the listowner for setting the

option.

Mario Rups

markin@patriot.net



___________________________________________________________________From: Kazetnik@aol.com

Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:32:13 EDT

Subject: Re: [histsex] {Histsex} Re: Introduction



Thanks Mario for the advice which is all good and sensible stuff. There are

some real headcase spammers out there on lists at the moment (not this one,

as far as I can tell!!) and a couple of the lists I'm on have had big probs.

Knowing the source doesn't stop the danger, tis true, but it helps to cut off

one wildcard route.

Paranoia rules ok.

Kaz



___________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:14:26 -0400

From: Ellen Moody <Ellen2@JimandEllen.org>

Subject: [histsex] historicity of the term gender



I don't know how accurate this is, but it is said that the

term "gender" first came into use when Ruth Bader-Ginsburg

preferred it to "sex". It is said she justified this take-over

from a hitherto linguistic use to a social-legislative one

on the grounds that she wanted to distinguish social,

economic and political roles allowed to women or enforced

on them from their biological lives. It is also said that

she "really" preferred the term because it felt "less

embarrassing". I know that in 18th century literature

it is common to find women and girls referred to as

"the sex", which feels derisory.

Again I have no evidence that the above start of the

term's use is accurate. I have only read this in

newspapers.

Ellen Moody



___________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:35:27 +0100

From: Cristina Santos <cristina@sonata.fe.uc.pt>

Subject: [histsex] homossexuality and capitalism



Hi.

I'm a Portuguese, 25-year old sociologist, whose graduation thesis was on

homosexual identities in contemporary Portuguese society. There aren't many

academic works on gay issues in Portugal, and as the gay movement is very,

very recent (only in arly 90's was the first homo organization officially

recognised) this is really a fascinating subject to me. I am now doing my

MA in Sociology and Globalisation, and I'll be addressing the connections

between human rights and homo rights as a way of empowering the Portuguese

gay movement.

I am also working on an international Project called "Reinventing Social

Emancipation", which tries to reflect upon some emancipatory alternatives

to hegemonic globalization in 5 different fields: participatory democracy,

alternative production systems, multiculturalism, biodiversity and the new

labor internationalism. For futher informations, take a look at our web

site on http://www.ces.fe.uc.pt/emancipa/

And I would like to hear a few voices on this: bearing in mind the

capitalist background on which the gay movement has found the conditions to

flourish, do you consider it emancipatory or does the gay movement, in a

very general way, depend to much on the hegemonic economic system in order

to be a convincing emancipatory alternative? I'd be happy to discuss this

with any (or all!!) of you, since this is precisely the argument used by

most of my friendly detractors... ;-)

All the best,

Cris







Ana Cristina Santos

Centre for Social Studies

Apartado 3087

3001-401 Coimbra - Portugal

Phone 00 351 239855583



___________________________________________________________________

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:30:14 -0400

From: Barbara Marshall <bmarshall@trentu.ca>

Subject: Re: [histsex] historicity of the term gender



Hello all -- I did some research into this while working on my most recent book

(Configuring Gender). I found (and this is also suggested by Bernice Hausman in

her book Changing Sex) that it seems to have had its earliest incarnation in the

the work of John Money and his colleagues in the 1950's. (As Hausman suggests, it

was only when biomedicine was able to transform physical 'sex' that a different

term was needed to mark the psychological and cultural dimensions that had

previously been signified by 'sex') Nellie Oudshoorn (in Beyond the Natural Body)

suggests 'gender' was used as early as the 1930's by psychologists to describe

psychological characteristics as distinct from physiological characteristics.

Money himself takes credit for it though: in his 1995 book Gendermaps, he

suggests its genesis in his doctoral dissertation on hermaphroditism, where he

struggled with finding a term to express 'libidinal orientation, sexual outlook

and sexual behaviour as masculine and feminine in both its general and its

specifically erotic aspects'. He says: 'After several burnings of the midnight

oil I arrived at the term, gender role, conceptualized jointly as private in

imagery and ideation, and public in manifestation and expression'. Money,

however, is very critical of how 'his' concept was taken up in academic

discourse, which on his account 'neutered' it. The key figure in canonizing the

sex/gender distinction as a biological/social distinction was Robert Stoller

whose 1968 book Sex and Gender became the standard reference point for definition

as the distinction travelled into the social sciences. In sociology, Anne

Oakley's Sex, Gender and Society (1973) was a key text.

In any case, the history of 'gender' as a concept is a complex and very

interesting one, and I'd be happy to suggest other references or continue

discussion off-list with anyone who's interested.

Barb Marshall



___________________________________________________________________From: "docx2" <docx2@ix.netcom.com>

Subject: Re: [histsex] historicity of the term gender

Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:25:48 -0700





Dear folks,

I do not have the reference handy, but I thought John Money coined or

popularized the term gender to refer to masculine and feminine traits and

identity. Prior to him, it was primarily used in linguistics to refer to

masculine and feminine nouns, pronouns, and articles.

Take care,

Charles Moser



___________________________________________________________________

Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:41:27 -0400 (EDT)

From: Gregory {Greg} Downing <gd2@is2.nyu.edu>

Subject: Re: [histsex] historicity of the term gender

At 06:24 PM 9/21/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah

>Last night someone said in a group

>discussion that the term gender was not used until fairly recently. Can

>anyone enlighten me on this? Was it used in the 1800's?

>Thanks in advance

>dar

>

I'm sure the Oxford English Dictionary 3rd ed., currently in preparation,

will have more and improved inoformation, but for what it's worth here is

the information (including dated citations) given by OED2 at "gender

(noun)," meaning 3b. Note that the earliest citation that OED2's editors

found for this sense is dated 1963:



"In mod[ern] (esp. feminist) use, a euphemism for the sex of a human being,

often intended to emphasize the social and cultural, as opposed to the

biological, distinctions between the sexes. Freq. attrib."

1963 A. Comfort Sex in Society ii. 42 The gender role learned by the age of

two years is for most individuals almost irreversible, even if it runs

counter to the physical sex of the subject.

1969 Erickson Educ. Found. Newslet. Spring 1/1 The Erickson Educational

Foundation has been called upon to function in gender identity areas needing

service not otherwise supplied.

1972 A. Oakley Sex, Gender & Society viii. 189 Sex differences may be

`natural', but gender differences have their source in culture.

1981 Heresies xii. 67/3 Our ideology and practice of sex roles

construct...two mutually exclusive categories, that is, genders.

1985 Times Lit. Suppl. 5 Apr. 378/4 Without threatening gender models, she

produced poetry good enough to praise.

1985 Times 2 Sept. 12/5 It is the tradition...that Christ is present and

acts through all the sacraments, and is present and active also in various

other ministrations of the church.... There is nothing gender-specific to those.

1986 Financial Times 15 Apr. 8/4 It was most important...that schools could

intervene in and modify the education of a child regardless of race, gender

or class background.

**************************



Greg Downing, at greg.downing@nyu.edu or gd2@is2.nyu.edu





___________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:03:27 -0400

From: Ellen Moody <Ellen2@JimandEllen.org>

Subject: Introduction

As the mailing information I received when I

subscribed to this list asked me to introduce

myself, I write this to do so.

I am a literary scholar and college teacher:

I have taught in various senior colleges in

the US as a part-time lecturer for some 17

years; my research interests are wide

and varied and include Arthurian literature,

the European Renaissance, 18th century

French and English literature, the

Romantic and Victorian period in England.

I am also interested in and have translated

poetry. My publications include a book

on Anthony Trollope, essays on 16th, 17th

and 18th century women poets, and review-

essays on 18th century women novelists.

I have a website which is endlessly

under construction: it has translations

from Italian Renaissance women's

poetry, material for a scholarly edition of

an 18th century woman poet, a section

on epistolary literature. If anyone is

interested, the address is:

http://mason.gmu.edu/~emoody

I come onto the list because I am interested

in what were the realities of sexual life

in the 18th and 19th centuries.

Cheers to all,

Ellen Moody



___________________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:42:26 -0400

From: Esther Katz <esther.katz@nyu.edu>

Subject: [histsex] Conference Announcement



National Organization on Male Sexual Victimization

Announcing the Ninth International Conference, October 25-28, 2001

Topic: "Healing the Sexual Victimization of Boys and Men"

Location: John Jay College of Criminal Justice, CUNY

Call for Papers, Workshop Proposals, and Scientific Abstracts

Healing, Training, Prevention, and Research Tracks

Guidelines can be found on www.malesurvivor.org or by calling 800-738-4181



Dr. Esther Katz

Editor/Director

The Margaret Sanger Papers Project

Department of History

New York University

53 Washington Square South, #501

New York, NY 10012-1098

esther.katz@nyu.edu

(212) 998-8620

(212) 995-4017 (fax)

Visit our web site at: http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger



___________________________________________________________________From: "Marcus Collins" <Marcus.Collins@ncl.ac.uk>

Subject: [histsex] The Permissive Society and Its Enemies - Call for Papers

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:48:21 +0100



Dear All,

May I possibly draw your attention to the Call for Papers below (also

available on-line at http://www.icbh.ac.uk/icbh/summer.html) for next

summer's Institute of Contemporary History Conference on 'The Permissive

Society and Its Enemies'. All proposals gratefully received.

Best,

Marcus Collins

Sir James Knott Fellow in History

University of Newcastle

205 Camden Road

London, NW1 9AA

Tel. (020) 7482-1351

E-mail: Marcus.Collins@ncl.ac.uk

Web: http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/marcus.collins

____

Call for Papers:

The Permissive Society and Its Enemies

15th Summer Conference of the Institute of Contemporary British History

at the IHR, University of London, 9-11 July 2001

The conference aims to bring together contemporary historians as well as

researchers in related fields to consider the impact of the 1960s on British

society, culture, politics and intellectual debate. Although we are happy to

consider papers on any related aspect of this theme, there are several areas

that we are especially concerned to explore. These include the liberalising

legislation of the 1960s, youth subculture and music, literature, film and

media history, drug culture, attitudes towards consumption, attitudes

towards 'race' and gender, and notions of class and status. Papers on the

earlier origins of and subsequent reaction against permissiveness are also

welcome, as well as more general proposals concerning the idea of

permissiveness in a contemporary British context. Although the conference

will focus on Britain, comparative papers will also be considered. It should

be stressed that we shall only accept papers which present the findings of

new research.

The conference will include a mixture of plenary speakers, panels and

parallel seminars. We would like to welcome as many young researchers and

postgraduates as possible, in addition to well-established specialists.

The deadline is 31 December 2000. Please send short proposals (no more than

300 words) to the Director, ICBH, Institute of Historical Research, Senate

House, Malet Street, London WC1E 7HU. Email: icbh@icbh.ac.uk URL:

http://www.icbh.ac.uk/icbh



___________________________________________________________________

Subject: [histsex] Nayland Blake and Micha Ramakers

Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:26:38 -0500

From: "Michael J. Murphy" <mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu>



Can anyone help me with contact information for Nayland Blake (USA) and

Micha Ramakers (Brussels).

Thanks,

Michael J. Murphy, M.A.

Doctoral Student, Dept. of Art History and Archaeology

Washington University, St. Louis

mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu

"In episode #228, who or what is 'Foucauldian'? We have enclosed a

self-addressed stamped envelope for your convenience."

-Letter to Alison Bechdel, cartoonist of Dykes To Watch Out For



___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>

Subject: [histsex] CP Conference on Marriage, Florence, June 2001

Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:42:43 +0100

[NB please contact Bruno Wanrooij, who is organising the conference, not =

me, with offers of papers and for further details - thanks.]

IL TERZO (IN)COMODO

(The Third Partner)

Mediation in Marriages in Italy and in Europe=20

(19th and 20th Centuries)



A Conference at Villa le Balze=20

Fiesole (Florence), Italy

19-20 June 2001



Call for papers



The intervention of third parties in the formation and preservation of =

marriages is a well known fact in historical studies, but has been =

little studied for the contemporary period. This conference about =

mediation in marriages aims at bringing together scholars who have =

studied marriage from various disciplinary points of view. Object of our =

investigations are the attempts made during the last two centuries by =

both public powers and private mediators to discipline - or to =

facilitate - the encounter of marriage partners and to guarantee the =

survival of their relationship. For the purposes of the conference, we =

will define marriage as a formally recognized intimate relationship =

between two persons based on the precarious balance between individual =

desires and social pressure (not necessarily in conflict). The =

contributions to the conference should focus on the creation of a =

=91science of marriage=92 which was added to the religious discourse but =

never fully replaced it. =20

The different religious settings of marriage mediation are another =

aspect that should be taken into consideration. Different denominations =

have a different way of drawing the borderline between the private and =

the public sphere, and thus determine different reactions to public =

intervention.

Possible paper topics are the attempts to assist men and/or women in =

their search for a partner - from marriage brokers to marriage agencies, =

and from arranged marriages to internet sites with lists of possible =

partners; the attempts to train partners for their role in marriage, as =

in the case of courses for housewives, or transmit the information =

deemed necessary for the success of their marriage, as in the case of =

courses for the betrothed. Limits and prohibitions regarding the choice =

of a partner, motivated by legislation and by medical, religious or =

social arguments, are of interest as well. =20

After marriage, the interventions by third parties often increased. =

Legislation regulating the relations between spouses is a clear example. =

Papers may focus on the attempts by civil and/or religious authorities =

to reconcile partners. Of special interest are the activities of =

marriage counseling by public or private organizations, and the sections =

of magazines dedicated to the discussion of marriage problems

Papers are expected to take into consideration the different =

consequences for men and women of third party mediation in marriages.=20



The Conference will be organized by the Center for the Study of Italian =

History and Culture Georgetown University Villa le Balze, possibly in =

collaboration with other scientific institutions. The conference will =

take place on June 19-20, 2001. Ca 12 papers will be presented.



Please send abstracts to=20

Prof. Bruno P.F. Wanrooij=20

Center for the Study of Italian History and Culture=20

Georgetown University=20

Villa le Balze=20

Via Vecchia Fiesolana 26=20

Fiesole (FI)=20

Italia=20

or by E-mail to=20

wanrooij@dada.it=20

=20

The deadline for abstracts (300-500 words) is December 1, 2000. =

Acceptance of papers will be notified around February 1, 2001. The =

Center is planning to publish the conference papers.

Lesley Hall

lesleyah@primex.co.uk

website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah





___________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:12:00 +0200

Reply-To: Marc Stein <mrstein@yorku.ca>

Message to CLAGS Gender and Sexuality Studies List:

===================================================================

Thanks to the generous provision of space by Walter Williams and ONE/IGLA,

and to the hard work of designer Randy Riddle and manager Todd White, I'm

pleased to announce the inauguration of the Committee on Lesbian and Gay

History website, which is located at:

www.oneinstitute.org

The site includes information on CLGH activities, CLGH membership, the

CLGH email announcements list, the 2001 American Historical

Association/CLGH program, CLGH prizes, the CLGH newsletter, the CLGH

directory, and lgbtq history syllabi, dissertations, and internet links.

Some of the pages are under construction and some await future decisions

by CLGH, but the site is up and running, and it looks great.

Marc Stein

CLGH Chair

mrstein@yorku.ca



___________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:38:40 -0700

From: julian carter <jcarter@leland.Stanford.EDU>

Subject: QU: [histsex] racial perversity



Dear histsexers,

I need a little perspective on the state of scholarship addressing the

intersection of racial and sexual perversity in the early 20th c. U.S. I'm

trying to decide whether I want to revise and update an essay I wrote in

'95, or whether the subject's been beaten into the ground since then.

The article in question uses some familiar sources (Margaret Otis on

lesbian delinquents, Havelock Ellis, etc) to examine the intersection of

race and sex in representations of lesbianism. So far, so old. Yet I saw

something in those sources that might still be worth talking about--the

extent to which the connection between race and sex was made via a

narrative logic of sexual development, so that developmental arrest was not

only about a (Lombroso-esque) kind of physical immaturity or primitivism,

but also about a failure to read and write, to imagine and to live, in an

appropriately linear and plot-driven fashion. I like this vision of

perversion as an "aberration in narrative," but I'm not sure whether it's

important enough to keep working on, given that scholars like Jenny Terry

have made the larger point about the intersection of race and sex so very

plain. Would you be so kind as to let me know what you think?

It would also be very helpful if you could send me any secondary references

(esp. those published since 1997) that you think might be relevant to this

project. If folks are interested, I'd be happy to compile a bibliography of

them to post to the list.

Thanks ever so,

Julian Carter

Fellow in the Humanities

Stanford University



___________________________________________________________________

Subject: Re: QU: [histsex] racial perversity

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:06:29 -0500

From: "Michael J. Murphy" <mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu>



Julian,

You should be aware of Siobhan Somerville's recent book Queering the

Color Line (Duke UP, 2000) which has a chapter on race and the homsexual

body.





Michael J. Murphy, M.A.

Doctoral Student, Dept. of Art History and Archaeology

Washington University, St. Louis

mjmurphy@artsci.wustl.edu

"I've always depended on the kindness of strangers." -Blanche Dubois

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