HISTSEX ARCHIVES: October 2000
© Lesley Hall and list contributors
Date: 2 Oct 2000 18:59:46 -0000
From: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex-owner@listbot.com>
Subject: [histsex] Welcome to all new members
There seems to have been quite an influx of new members in the last few
weeks (or maybe simply old subscribers resubscribing after the summer
break?). This is my periodic message to invite new subscribers to the list
to introduce themselves and their interests in the history of sexuality,
or indeed, old members to reintroduce themselves &/or talk about their
current interests.
I also remind list members of the History of Sexuality research register:
if you would like to be entered on this,
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah/hofsresr.htm, please contact me at
lesleyah@primex.co.uk with your details - contact e-mail (and snailmail if
you like), affiliation if any, and your research interests, preferably in
terms that other people might search under.
Best to all
Lesley Hall
histsex-owner@listbot.com
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
___________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:15:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Elise R Chenier <3erc3@qlink.queensu.ca>
Subject: [histsex] Wolfenden Report and Introduction
Greetings,
My name is Elise Chenier, I am a graduate student in the history
department at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. My doctoral
thesis seeks to show how psychiatric ideas became part of our popular
cultural understanding of human sexuality. I locate the popularizarion of
psychiatric and psychoanalytic interpretations in the post-WWII sex crime
panic, and examine the introduction of treatment programs for sex
offenders, track the changing meanings of homosexuality and manage to fit
in some women's history to boot.
I am currently planning a post-doc research trip to London to look at the
period between the Wolfenden Report and the 1967 Sexual Offences Act. I
am hoping that list members might help me identify
currently ongoing (ie not yet published) or published work on the Reports,
and on sex, the law and psychiatry in Britain in the period in general.
Personal queries and data base searches have thus far yeilded Antony
Grey's _Quest for Justice: towards homosexual emancipation_ and Patrick
Higgins' _Heterosexual Dictatorship_. Any help list members can offer would be
greatly appreciated.
Regards, Elise Chenier
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:07:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: JJ Pionke <deepforestowl@yahoo.com>
Subject: [histsex] Introduction
Hello all! I am an undergrad at Truman State
University in Missouri. I am working on a paper for a
grad class I am taking. The paper is called Gays and
Lesbians in World War II. I have had an ongoing
interest in GLBT issues during the WWII period and
have written a paper on Nazi Policy and Gay and
Lesbians. I hope to go on to grad school in english
and do my thesis on lesbian writers from this period.
I am having a lot of fun researching this paper, as
much as I did the last one. I find History of
Sexuality to be fascinating and a lot of fun. My
professor, Steven Reschly, told me that histsex was an
invaluable tool and a lot of fun to boot. So here I
am! JJ Pionke
___________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:03:47 -0400
From: "Roberto C. Ferrari" <rferrari@fau.edu>
Subject: [histsex] Welcome to all new members
Hi, everyone. Per the request, I thought I'd introduce myself to the list.
My sexual history research focuses mostly on gay male studies of the late
Victorian period to early modern period (ca. Bloomsbury) in Britain. Our
early concepts of homosexuality as a lifestyle, rather than physical act,
were first written down and believed by individuals starting sometime
around the 1860s. Even more important, however, is the proliferation of a
gay subculture which flourished in England at this time. Certainly one had
flourished earlier than this, but with the rise of the middle class and
more interaction between classes, homosexuality as a lifestyle started to
bridge the gap between the extreme classes. Consider, for instance, the
stories of the Cleveland Street Affair of 1889, the stories of John Saul
the male prostitute, and of course Oscar Wilde's trials of 1895.
I have focused my research mostly on the work and world of Simeon Solomon
(1840-1905). Solomon was a Jewish artist who early in his career was
influenced by the Pre-Raphaelites, eventually befriending Dante Gabriel
Rossetti, Algernon Charles Swinburne and Edward Burne-Jones (all of whom
had their own interesting sexual predilections). Solomon was arrested in
1873 for public indecency when he was discovered having sexual relations
with another man in a public urinal in London. He was declared an outcast
by his colleagues and attempts by certain individuals to "rescue" him were
unsuccessful. Over the past 25 years, there has been a gradual resurgence
of interest in him and his work. His post-1873 paintings often reflect a
dreamlike quality and reveal the androgynes typical of the Aesthetic and
Symbolist movements, most of which borders on homoeroticism and lesbianism.
I have recently made live on the Internet the Simeon Solomon Research
Archive, which is a repository of bibliographic information written about
him since approximately 1860. Eventually the site will have digital images
and more full-text added to it. If you're interested in looking at it, go
to http://www.fau.edu/solomon/.
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Roberto C. Ferrari
Head of Access Services
Arts & Humanities Librarian
Wimberly Library
Florida Atlantic University
777 Glades Rd., Boca Raton, FL 33431
PHONE: 561-297-3575
FAX: 561-338-3863
EMAIL: rferrari@fau.edu
WEB: http://www.fau.edu/library/people/rferrari.htm
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___________________________________________________________________From: JNKATZ1@aol.com
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:10 EDT
Subject: [histsex] Seeking email of Gillian Rodger
I'm seeking the current email address of Gillian Rodger who was on this list
in March. Thanks
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:20:00 +0100 (BST)
From: M Houlbrook <mhoulb@essex.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [histsex] Wolfenden Report and Introduction
Dear Elise
There's a lot of work that's either being done or is ongoing in the area
you're talking about. Chris Waters is currently working on a book going
under the name Queer Treatments, focusing on the development of
psychiatric conceptions of the homosexual and therapeutic responses. At
the moment he's focusing upon Edward Glover and the Institute for the
Scientific Treatment of Delinquency between the 1930s and 1960s. Chris has
also published on Peter Wildeblood and Wolfenden, 'Disorders of the Mind,
Disorders of the Body Social: Peter Wildeblood and the Making ofthe Modern
Homosexual', in Waters, Frank Mort and Becky Conekin (eds.), Moments of
Modernity, (Rivers Oram, 1999).
For other discussions of Wolfenden etc see
Frank Mort, 'Mapping Sexual London' (? not entirely sure on the title),
New Formations 37 1999.
Leslie Moran, The Homosexual(ity) of Law.
Jeffrey Weeks, Coming Out: Homosexual POlitics in GB, (first work in the
field 1977).
Stephen Jeffrey-Poulter, Peers, Queers and Commons.
I done a lot of work on Wolfenden myself, particualrly on the remapping
of the queer in the 1950s and 1960s. My thesis has a section on middle
class queer politics in the post war era and a forthcoming piece on
cottaging deals with Wolfenden to a large extent.
At any rate, hope this is of use. I'd be interested in hearing more about
your work. Feel free to email me (mhoulb@hotmail.com) when you're in the
UK. I'm based in Oxford.
Best
Matt Houlbrook
___________________________________________________________________
From: "James Paterson" <jimjamtwo@hotmail.com>
Subject: [histsex] Italy's sexual notoriety in 16th century England
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 01:08:22 GMT
All,
I'm a research student at the University of Sydney in the final phase of
putting together a dissertation on English travellers in Italy between 1540
and 1612. I'd be most interested in hearing from anyone who knows something
about the sexual dimension of Italy's reputation in Tudor and Jacobean
England. I can't say that I've uncovered as many sources shedding light on
the this subject as I had hoped, apart from Roger Ascham's The Scholemaster.
Can I solicit suggestions for primary sources of a non-travel nature (I've
covered these extensively already) that would shed light on the process by
which Italy became associated with sexual immorality? Presumably, Italian
vice was a fundamental aspect of anti-catholic polemic in the period, but I
haven't turned up anything useful as yet. Any suggestions anyone?
James Paterson,
Department of History,
University of Sydney.
___________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 00:17:11 -0400
From: Ellen Moody <Ellen2@JimandEllen.org>
Subject: [histsex] Italy's sexual notoriety in 16th century England
I hope my reply is not otiose (too obvious). Although it is not
the original source which lies in cultural readings of religious
attitudes (among other real life phenomena), nor is it the
first literary rendering which goes to the large books of
lurid tales so popular in the Renaissance (e.g., Bandello),
but the English drama was certainly the most influential.
The strongest dramas came a bit late for your interests,
but read _The Spanish Tragedy_, Marston, Middleton,
Ford, Webster, Tourneur (to whom _The Avenger's
Tragedy_ used to be attributed).
Cheers to all,
Ellen Moody
___________________________________________________________________From: "Hubert" <hubert.gieschen@users.breworld.net>
Subject: [histsex] Introduction; history of London pubs with striptease; Erotic art on churches
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:27:03 +0100
Hi everyone,
1) My name is Hubert Gieschen. I know I should have introduced myself a =
long time ago. I must have been too much in awe of all your academic =
achievements. I hold an MA in the History of Wales from the University =
of Wales, Aberyswyth College. Everyone who wants to know about the topic =
of my non-history of sexuality-related dissertation subject (Welsh =
devolution, especially the Labour Party and the 1979 referendum) is =
welcome to look at my web site www.madasafish.com/~hubertgieschen=20
(any feedback on whether the red dragon on the home page gets displayed =
by your browsers would be most appreciated).
2) My interest in the history of sexuality stems primarily from a desire =
to find out more about my adopted city of residence, London, and its =
social history. No other place seems to have a phenomenom to the extent =
London has: the strip pub as opposed to the upmarket American-style =
table dancing establishments.
3) Pubs with striptease in London appear to have originated in the East =
End, but can now be found everywhere in the capital and the suburbs. Any =
hints on how it oiginated from the music hall tradition is most =
appreciated. Whilst certain London boroughs, especially Hackney in the =
traditional East End seem to be intent on closing down as many venues as =
possible, the further away from the origins the official attituude =
appears more tolerant. I am most interested in changes of public =
attitudes and why. Perhaps it might even lead to a publication.
4) Another topic of interest is erotic art on churches. I know there are =
publications around, however, a recent visit to the tiny hamlet of Abson =
near Bristol in the W of England struck me as very depressing. A desire =
by the church to eradicate memories of paganism must have left local =
inhabitants seemingly completely ignorant as to the treasures displayed =
on their medieval church. How did this happen?
Enough said
Regards to everyone
Hubert
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Deeno" <deenoadkins@yahoo.com>
Subject: [histsex] Treasties on Man, Woman and Sex
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:58:41 -0700
We are well accustomed to the ideas of the prudish, sexually repressed
Victorians, who cautiously guarded themselves against any temptation, no
matter how slight. Critics and reader have largely and successfully
questioned this conception and proven it inaccurate. For during this period,
even in seeking any man or woman's ultimate goal in achieving the apparently
conservative happy ending of marriage, Victorians were inevitably led to the
consummation of their love and the creation one's own home and family. Sex
and sexuality, then, were unavoidable issues for the Victorians.
What exactly differentiated men from women and why the species evolved into
the two sexes, then, unsurprisingly confounded Victorian theorists such as
Herbert Spencer and Patrick Geddes. Thus, they and other specialists
constructed a stereotypical dyadic model. Other than the different sex
organs and physical differences, men were considered the active agents, who
expended energy while women were sedentary, storing and conserving energy.
Victorian theories of evolution believed that these feminine and masculine
attributes traced back to the lowest forms of life. A dichotomy of
temperaments defined feminine and masculine: an anabolic nature, which
nurtured versus a katabolic nature, which released energy respectively.
Such beliefs laid the groundwork for, or rather arose from, the separation
of spheres for men and women. According to the model, since men only
concerned themselves with fertilization, they could also spend energies in
other arenas, allowing as Spencer says:
"The male capacity for abstract reason... along with an attachment to the
idea of abstract justice...[which] was a sign of highly-evolved life."
On the other hand, woman's heavy role in pregnancy, menstruation (considered
a time of illness, debilitation, and temporary insanity), and child-rearing
left very little energy left for other pursuits. As a result, women's
position in society came from biological evolution -- she had to stay at
home in order to conserve her energy, while the man could and needed to go
out and hunt or forage.
Moreover, this evolutionary reasoning provided justification for the
emotional and mental differences between men and women. Geddes was led to
believe that:
"Male intelligence was greater than female, men had greater independence and
courage than women, and men were able to expend energy in sustained bursts
of physical or cerebral activity... Women on the other hand... were superior
to men in constancy of affection and sympathetic imagination... [they had]
'greater patience, more open-mindedness, greater appreciation of subtle
details, and consequently what we call more rapid intuition.'"
The roles of men and women understood as thus, the Victorians still had to
deal with the actual sexual act, wherein the bipolar model still held.
Earlier on in the century, women were considered the weaker, more innocent
sex. She had little to no sexual appetite, often capturing all the sympathy
and none of the blame over indiscretions. Men represented the fallen,
sinful, and lustful creatures, wrongfully taking advantage of the fragility
of women. However, this situation switched in the later half of the period;
women had to be held accountable, while the men, slaves to their katabolic
purposes and sexual appetites, could not really be blamed. Therefore, women
were portrayed either frigid or else insatiable. A young lady was only worth
as much as her chastity and appearance of complete innocence, for women were
time bombs just waiting to be set off. Once led astray, she was the fallen
woman, and nothing could reconcile that till she died.
Many artists and writers of the period did not accept such strict roles for
men and women in either their sexualities or their contributions to sexual
intercourse. The dyadic model set up for men and women permeated the age,
but only served to try to encourage an ideal. In real situations and in
fictional agendas, Victorians could recognize the complexities and areas of
gray.
Figures such as the Marquis de Sade and Casanova saturate our literary
history. Sexual innuendos inserted by authors of all sorts of statuses run
rampant throughout novels, pamphlets, discourseseven religious texts. Retif
de-la-Bretone (1776), a contemporary of the Marquis de Sade, and derided as
the "Rousseau of the Gutter", wrote volumes about the "peasant" class and
the subject of "vice", from incest to prostitution.
Michael Mason says in "The Making of Victorian Sexuality" that widespread
sexual repression in the Victorian era is a myth, with between a third and a
half of women pregnant at marriage, middle class couples kissing and
cuddling in public and "unbridled sexual intercourse" in working-class dance
halls. Another study of a Dorset village found eight out of ten births were
illegitimate between 1770 and 1790. There is no evidence that this was
typical of the whole country but does suggest our view of all Victorians as
morally strict is incorrect. Mason also claims the Victorians were fully
aware of female sexuality. Dr William Acton's famous quote that most women
are "not troubled by sexual feeling of any kind" was written to help young
men afraid of impotence. Victorian doctors knew about female orgasm as seen
in their writings and teaching. And so did the people.
Sex can overcome class barriers. It is speculated that Elizabeth I had an
affair with a manshead, or stable master. To give an idea, the diary of a
female member of the notorious French sex club the Aphrodites, lists nearly
5,000 amorous encounters over a period of twenty years. By the breakdown of
profession:
"272 princes and prelates, 929 officers, 93 rabbis, 342 financiers, 439
monks, 420 society men, 288 commoners, 117 valets, 2 uncles, 12 cousins,
119 musicians, 47 Negroes, and 1,614 foreigners (during an enforced absence
to London, probably during the Revolution)"
To have a lover was fashionable; to have them by the droves, without regard
to station or publicity, was scandalous. For the average well to do person,
who craved a little excitement, attending a masque proved admirably
effective. Masquerading in magnificent costumes and dominoes, they were
borne to the party in sedan chairs on the shoulders of servants or
hirelings. After each person preformed his "party piece" and was applauded,
the guests turned to more "unstructured" play.
The behavior was quite opposite to that of the conventional social fair, and
introductions were often discouraged. Whispers, suggestive remarks,
squeezes, kisses, and petting were the norm. There were rooms to retire and
unmask, or to bed a masked stranger. Usually it was only the man to unmask.
A letter from a Mr. Temple to James Boswell summed up the philosophy of the
day:
"A little occasional amorous dalliance, it is to be hoped, all of us may
innocently enough allow ourselves; but then such intercourse ought to be
occasional, when nature will not be defined; and the desire being satisfied,
the object should be thought of no more. Perhaps this reasoning may shock
your delicacy (it once shocked mine), but unhappily in our present
circumstances it is but common sense and common prudence."
Mr. Temple was none other than Reverend William Johnson Temple, noted clergy
and essayist. Prudish? It was an era of discovery at all levels of science,
many just coming into reality. Constitutionalism and capitalism was
developing. It was a time of celebration and enlightenment. Why then would
then not explore and express themselves sexually as well as intellectually.
___________________________________________________________________
From: <lesleyah@primexplus.com>
Subject: Re: [histsex] Treasties on Man, Woman and Sex
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 09:30:39 GMT
Ummm ... if anyone is interested in this subject might
I allude to my own essay, 'The Other in the Mirror:
Sex Victorians and Historians',
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah/sexvict.htm?
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
___________________________________________________________________From: "Jenneke Quast" <jqu@iisg.nl>
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:34:35 +0200
Subject: [histsex] Introduction of new subscriber
Dear Histsex subscribers,
I am a new subsciber to the list. My name is Jenneke Quast, I work in
the Digital Projects department of the International Institute of
Social History, Amsterdam, The Netherlands. My tasks include the
compilation of ViVa, an online bibliography of women's and gender
history (http://www.iisg.nl/~womhist/vivahome.html), and the
maintenance of the World Wide Web Virtual Library of Women's History
(http://www.iisg.nl/~womhist/vivalink.html). I was one of the
organizers of the recently held workshop on "Free Love and the Labour
Movement", Amsterdam, 6-7 October
(http://www.iisg.nl/~womhist/freelove.html). I have joined the list
because the history of sexuality, naturally, has much ground in
common with women's and gender history.
Jenneke Quast
Internationaal Instituut voor Sociale Geschiedenis
Cruquiusweg 31
NL-1019 AT Amsterdam
jqu@iisg.nl
http://www.iisg.nl/~womhist/
http://www.iisg.nl/occasio/
___________________________________________________________________From: "Dalley-Crozier ,Dr Ivan" <i.dalley-crozier@wellcome.ac.uk>
Subject: [histsex] bibliographical help
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:43:15 +0100
Does anyone out there have full bibliographical citations fo rthe following
articles? They might be of use to some of you anyway. This includes first
initials of the authors, as well as page numbers, etc.
Cheerio, Ivan
xxx Sadger, "Zur Aetiology der konträren Sexualempfindung," Medizinische
Klinik, 2 (1909), pp.xxx-xxx
xxx Jekels, "Eininge Bemerken zur trieblehre," Internationale Zeitschrift
für Aerztliche Psychoanalyse, (Sept., 1913), pp.xxx-xxx
xxx Ortvay, in Internationale Zeitschrift für Aerztliche Psychoanalyse,
(Jan., 1914)., pp. xxx-xxx
H. Ellis, A note on hypogfagogic pramnesia' in Mind, ns, 1897, pp. xxx-xxx
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Ivan Dalley Crozier,
i.dalley-crozier@wellcome.ac.uk
"An entertaining essay might perhaps be
written on the sexlessness of historians;
but it would be entertaining and nothing
more: we do not know enough either about
the historians or sex."
--Lytton Strachey, 1931
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___________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:16:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Leslie Ambedian <ambedian@yorku.ca>
Subject: [histsex] introduction
Greetings, all. I recently joined histsex, and thought I ought to join the
round of introductions. I am a doctoral student in the English programme
at York University in Toronto. My research (which is still in its infancy,
if not pre-natal) is concerned with sadomasochism as a model of power
exchange in Victorian literature, particularly in women's writing.
Although most of my work is fairly removed from the sexual aspects of s&m,
I am also interested in power dynamics as expressed in Victorian
erotica. I've been doing some work recently on the propagation of cultural
stereotypes through historical fiction, particularly with regard to
Victorian sexuality (and of course, discovered this mailing list *after*
that particular paper went in...)
-Leslie
***
Leslie Ambedian "Soylent Green... ...is not people.
ambedian@wiznet.ca Soylent Green is kittens. We apologise
or ambedian@yorku.ca for the error."
http://www.wiznet.ca/~ambedian
___________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:41:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20O'Rourke?=" <tranquilised_icon@yahoo.com>
Subject: [histsex] Addresses query
Dear list,
I wonder if anyone can help me with the following
e-mail addresses which I am seeking:
-Jonathan Dollimore
-Alan Bray
-Jeffrey Weeks
-Randolph Trumbach.
Many thanks in advance,
Michael O'Rourke,
PhD student,
university College Dublin.
___________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 13:59:01 -0700
From: JILL SHEARER <JAZZ32@GTE.NET>
Subject: Re: [histsex] introduction
So, what have you learned??
Jill :-)
Leslie Ambedian wrote:
> Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
>
> Greetings, all. I recently joined histsex, and thought I ought to join the
> round of introductions. I am a doctoral student in the English programme
> at York University in Toronto. My research (which is still in its infancy,
> if not pre-natal) is concerned with sadomasochism as a model of power
> exchange in Victorian literature, particularly in women's writing.
> Although most of my work is fairly removed from the sexual aspects of s&m,
> I am also interested in power dynamics as expressed in Victorian
> erotica. I've been doing some work recently on the propagation of cultural
> stereotypes through historical fiction, particularly with regard to
> Victorian sexuality (and of course, discovered this mailing list *after*
> that particular paper went in...)
>
> -Leslie
>
> ***
> Leslie Ambedian "Soylent Green... ...is not people.
> ambedian@wiznet.ca Soylent Green is kittens. We apologise
> or ambedian@yorku.ca for the error."
> http://www.wiznet.ca/~ambedian
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:44:33 -0500
From: "Lisa Johnson" <ljohnson@westga.edu>
Subject: [histsex] normal
I thought I'd mention how much i'm enjoying a new book of queer theory
that's very accessibly written and redirects the glbt movement in
important ways (argues we should stop trying to be recognized as
"normal" and start questioning the concept of normal as a conservative
policing tool). It's called THE TROUBLE WITH NORMAL, by Michael Warner.
So much queer theory is written in highly technical jargon. I got pretty
skilled at reading that style while in grad school; now that I'm
through, I choose to read/support accessible academic writing on
sexuality and social criticism instead.
Lisa Johnson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Visiting Assistant Professor
Dept. of English & Philosophy
State University of West Georgia
Carrollton, GA 30118
"And watching Monte ride off through the long grains, I thought about
the way we invent ourselves through our stories, and in a similar way,
how the stories we tell put walls around our lives. And I think that
may be true about cowboys. That there really isn't much truth in my
saying cowboys are my weakness; maybe, after all this time, it's just
something I've learned to say."
*Pamela Houston, "Cowboys Are
___________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:50:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Leslie Ambedian <ambedian@yorku.ca>
Subject: Re: [histsex] introduction
Ask me in about 3 years -- I still have field exams to get through before
this really gets underway...
Actually, I've learned that you get some really funny looks when you tell
people you're interested in sadomasochism and the Victorians. My favourite
response so far: "Oooh, a rich field to mine!" :)
-Leslie
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, JILL SHEARER wrote:
> Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
>
> So, what have you learned??
> Jill :-)
>
Leslie Ambedian "Soylent Green... ...is not people.
ambedian@wiznet.ca Soylent Green is kittens. We apologise
or ambedian@yorku.ca for the error."
http://www.wiznet.ca/~ambedian
___________________________________________________________________From: "Julie Cox" <jmcjls@earthlink.net>
Subject: [histsex] my introduction
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:48:49 -0700
hi all
I'm a second year PhD student in the Literature Dept. of the University of
California at Santa Cruz. The literature I'm most interested is in American
Lit. from 1890-1945. So what's a nice girl like me doing on a list like
this, you ask? My approach is/will be the scientific discourse of sex,
sexuality and gender, and the ways in which these are infused into literary
characters.
Julie M. Cox
jmcjls@earthlink.net
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:20:03 -0700 (MST)
From: Tim Hodgdon <Tim.Hodgdon@asu.edu>
Subject: [histsex] Two web sites of interest
List members:
I've recently found two web sites that may be of interest to historians of
sexuality:
Captive Daughters http://www.captive.org/
"Captive Daughters is a non-profit organization dedicated to ending the
sex trafficking of children, with special emphasis on the girl child."
Commercial Sexual Exploitation Resource Institute
"The Commercial Sexual Exploitation Resource Institute is a non-profit
organization established in 1996 to answer the need for a coordinated
community response to the expanding sex industry in Minnesota. The
Resource Institute maintains a periodical library on the causes and
effects of commercial sexual exploitation; publishes original research;
distributes original prevention and intervention materials; provides
professional training and consulting services; develops organizing
strategies to fight commercial sexual exploitation, advocates for the
civil rights of prostituted individuals and provides direct services to
survivors."
http://www.captive.org/Resources/Otherorganizations/CSERI.htm
Tim Hodgdon
Ph.D. candidate
Department of History
Arizona State University
Tim.Hodgdon@asu.edu
___________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:04:13 -0400
From: "Roberto C. Ferrari" <rferrari@fau.edu>
Subject: [histsex] Victorian homosexual crimes
I'm wondering if someone can help clarify something for me re: the laws
regulating homosexuality in 19th-century Britain.
In my research on Simeon Solomon and turn-of-the-century homosexuality,
I've read a lot of information discussing the Labouchere Amendment and the
transformation of the subculture. I understand the laws relating to
buggery/sodomy, but what I'm confused about are the laws regulating public
indecency or indecent exposure at the time.
In Wendell Stacy Johnson's "Living in Sin" (1979), he cites (from a
photocopied source, not the original) the transcript of Simeon Solomon's
and George Roberts's conviction in 1873 for homosexual activity in a public
urinal. The charges denote that the two revealed their private parts for
more than 15 minutes and were about to procure the act of sodomy.
(Obviously someone must have been spying on them!) Based on the notion
that they were about to partake in sodomy, it is my understanding that at
that time, they should have received the minimum sentence of about a year
or so and the maximum of 10 years in prison. But Solomon was out in a
couple of weeks.
Any guesses why? I can't help but wonder if it's related to one of two
things: (a) his family's connection; (b) the charges were dropped because
of lack of evidence and/or modified to public indecency. If the charges
were modified, than what was the normal penalty for public
indecency/indecent exposure? Or was it simply that his family/friends
managed to get him off the hook? (George Roberts apparently served more
time than Solomon, by the way.) I have not seen the original court
records, so maybe the answer lies there.
-- Roberto
==================================================
Roberto C. Ferrari
Head of Access Services
Arts & Humanities Librarian
Wimberly Library
Florida Atlantic University
777 Glades Rd., Boca Raton, FL 33431
PHONE: 561-297-3575
FAX: 561-338-3863
EMAIL: rferrari@fau.edu
WEB: http://www.fau.edu/library/people/rferrari.htm
==================================================
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:22:49 +0100
From: "Peter Bartlett" <Peter.Bartlett@nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [histsex] Victorian homosexual crimes
In response to Roberto's question, I do not claim to have particular knowledge of this case, but
"being about to" commit sodomy is no more sodomy than "being about to" kill someone is
murder: if the act was not done, the full crime is not committed.
One of the legal things that, to my knowledge, no one has done any work on in a sexual context
for the nineteenth century are the crimes of attempt to commit a felony (sodomy, in this case), or
conspiracy to do so.
In the eighteenth century, attempt sodomy convictions were used routinely for what we would
later label indecent acts. The court does not seem overly concerned that there be proof that
conduct which would have lead to the full act of sodomy was interrupted with the individuals in
flagrante. I suspect, consistent with the nineteenth-century rationalisation of law, that this would
have changed by the 1870s, and that evidence would have had to be lead in the circumstances
Roberto describes that sodomy would have occurred but for the intervention and arrest of the
participants, but I may be wrong about that. In any case, this much better matches the facts as
Roberto describes them, and it would be worth checking whether Solomon was charged with
either attempt or conspiracy, since that would not carry the full penalty of the sodomy felony.
peter
(Dr.) Peter Bartlett
School of Law
University of Nottingham
Nottingham, NG7 2RD
0115 951-5709
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:52:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: "A. G. McLaren" <amclaren@UVic.CA>
Subject: Re: [histsex] Victorian homosexual crimes
Roberto's question appears to relate to exhibitionism. In The Trials of
Masculinity (1997), pp.192-195 I noted the way in which English courts
treated such cases in the 19th century.
Angus McLaren
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [histsex] Victorian homosexual crimes
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:21:08 +0100
>One of the legal things that, to my knowledge, no one has done any work on
in a sexual context for the nineteenth century are the crimes of attempt to
commit a felony (sodomy, in this case), or conspiracy to do so.
>
I have a tantalising reference to a thesis in progress as at 1997 or 8 at
the University of Manchester on the policing of homosexuality
pre-Labouchere, a footnote in D Vincent's book on Secrecy (which I don't
have to hand) - by this time the author may have finished and published
something but I haven't come across anything.
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:59:37 -0400
From: Cristina Nelson <crn@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: [histsex] funny looks and research
>
>Actually, I've learned that you get some really funny looks when you tell
>people you're interested in sadomasochism and the Victorians. My favourite
>response so far: "Oooh, a rich field to mine!" :)
>
>-Leslie
>
I, too, get funny looks and wide smiles when I tell people who ask about my
(U.S. history) dissertation that it is on (U.S.) women's underwear,
1940-70."Is that history?" they ask...and men usually ask if they can be my
research assistants. *My* favorite responses include comments like "I
wonder if you can get financial support from manufacturers" and "Are you
in your cups?" Ain't academia grand?
Cristina Nelson
UNC-Chapel Hill
___________________________________________________________________From: "Hall ,Dr Lesley" <l.hall@wellcome.ac.uk>
Subject: [histsex] Ref for thesis on Victorian sodomy
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:44:12 +0100
I mentioned a vague recollection of this in a recent posting. The details
are (from footnote, p 129 of David Vincent, The Culture of Secrecy (1998)
Harry Cocks, 'Abominable Crimes: Sodomy, Law and Society, 1830-1885' ,
forthcoming PhD with Manchester University.
Does anyone know anything more about this &/or Cocks's work (name sounds
familiar?)
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
___________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:16:13 -0400
From: "Roberto C. Ferrari" <rferrari@fau.edu>
Subject: Re: [histsex] Ref for thesis on Victorian sodomy
Thanks to everyone for their contributions on this topic, and for this
information on Dr. Cocks's dissertation and the followup with his email
address. I intend to contact him to see if he can provide any more insight
into my original Solomon inquiry.
-- Roberto
==================================================
Roberto C. Ferrari
Head of Access Services
Arts & Humanities Librarian
Wimberly Library
Florida Atlantic University
777 Glades Rd., Boca Raton, FL 33431
PHONE: 561-297-3575
FAX: 561-338-3863
EMAIL: rferrari@fau.edu
WEB: http://www.fau.edu/library/people/rferrari.htm
==================================================
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:35:11 +0100 (BST)
From: M Houlbrook <mhoulb@essex.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [histsex] Ref for thesis on Victorian sodomy
Dear Lesley
Harry Cocks finished his PhD fairly recently. He's now a post-doc fellow
at Manchester. Email h.cocks@man.ac.uk
Best
Matt Houlbrook
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Hall ,Dr Lesley wrote:
> Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
>
> I mentioned a vague recollection of this in a recent posting. The details
> are (from footnote, p 129 of David Vincent, The Culture of Secrecy (1998)
> Harry Cocks, 'Abominable Crimes: Sodomy, Law and Society, 1830-1885' ,
> forthcoming PhD with Manchester University.
> Does anyone know anything more about this &/or Cocks's work (name sounds
> familiar?)
> Lesley Hall
> lesleyah@primex.co.uk
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:04:29 +0930
From: Leigh Summers <leigh.summers@adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [histsex] funny looks and research
Hi Chrisitna, dont worry about the wry remarks. My phd was in corsetry
1850-1900, so I understand the bemusement you inevitably experience when
researching a topic like this. However, I am sure you will find that women in
particular are fascinated by yr material and offer insightful anecdotal
material. Good Luck, remember you are making a serious contribution to women's
history and the history of sexuality, so dont be rattled by negative remarks.
Best Wishes
Leigh summers
Cristina Nelson wrote:
___________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:28:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: <dheath@socrates.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Re: [histsex] introduction
Since many other lurkers have been coming forth and introducing
themselves to the list, I thought I'd take a shot at it. I'm currently in
the write-up stage of a dissertation entitled "Creating the Moral Colonial
Subject: Censorship in Australia and India, 1880 to 1939," which examines
the censorship of obscene publications in these two former colonies during
the above period (one chapter also explores Britain's role as moral censor
in the empire). My work is therefore on the peripheries of the history of
sexuality, although one of my chapters explores how censorship in
Australia was quite literally designed to promote the production of
Australian bodies (and hence put a stop to the declining birth rate and
prevent Australia from being overrun by the ever-freared 'Asiatic hordes.'
While I know that I will shortly have some questions that I'd like to pose
to the list, in the mean time if anyone out there is working on anything
remotely similar I'd be glad to hear from you.
Deana Heath
Ph.D. Candidate in History
U.C. Berkeley
___________________________________________________________________From: "N Hiley" <N.P.Hiley@ukc.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 'Sploshing'?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:57:44 +0100
Well, according to the definition at
<http://www.deviantdesires.com/map/messy.html> it involves getting messy
with food or paint. To quote the expert - "Bill Shipton, publisher of
Splosh! Magazine (the UK's premiere messy fun mag) devides the messy crowd
into three main subgroups: wetlook (water) mudlarking (mud and clay) and
sploshing (food and paint, etc.). As a general rule, messy fans require that
mess be thrown on people wearing clothes, and some folks have a very
particular clothing they want to see doused. One Splosh! reader likes the
rain scenes in Indian films -- wet saris get him going. Interestingly
enough, rain is often a euphemism for sex anyway, sort of like the
waves-crashing-on-beach scene in From Here to Eternity."
Yours in silent amazement,
Nick Hiley.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hall ,Dr Lesley <l.hall@wellcome.ac.uk>
To: <histsex@listbot.com>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 3:20 PM
Subject: 'Sploshing'?
> Histsex:For historians of sexuality -
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
>
> A colleague of mine who is building up a research collection of
'tart-cards'
> as found in London phone-boxes, has recently come across one advertising
> 'sploshing services'. He and I have various surmises about what this might
> mean, but I thought I would run it past the collective wisdom of Histsex
to
> see if anyone has a more definite definition.
> Thanks
> Lesley
> lesleyah@primex.co.uk
> http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:19:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Haiduk Press <haidukpress@yahoo.com>
Subject: [histsex] Don Leon
I wonder whether anyone is familar with the history of
the poem with the above title. It is apparently by
Byron, but some claim it is a forgery. Why is that? Is
the original on view anywhere?
For those unfamiliar with it, it is an outspoken
defense of male love, making reference to many events
and individuals in Byron's life.
Andrei Foldes
___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: [histsex] Reviews of interest
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:00:48 +0100
Lois Shawver. And the Flag Was Still There: Straight People, Gay People, =
and Sexuality in the U.S. Military. Haworth Gay and Lesbian Series. New =
York: Haworth Press, 1996. xiv + 262 pp. Notes, bibliography, index. =
$39.95 (cloth), ISBN 1-560-24909-9; $19.95 (paper), ISBN 1-560-23851-8. =
Reviewed by Miriam Ben-Shalom, Independent Scholar.
http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=3D28826896467875
William H. McMichael. The Mother of All Hooks: The Story of the U.S. =
Navy's Tailhook Scandal. Foreword by Charles C. Moskos. New Brunswick, =
N.J. and London: Transaction Publishers, 1997. xvi + 377 pp. List of =
interviews, notes, and index. $32.95 (cloth), ISBN 1-56000-293-X. =
Reviewed by Francine D'Amico, independent scholar.
http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=3D219899242205
Office of the OSD Inspector General. The Tailhook Report: The Official =
Inquiry Into The Events Of Tailhook '91. N.Y.: St. Martin's Press, 1993. =
250 pp. Bibliographical references. $10.95 (paper), ISBN 0-312-10392-8. =
Reviewed by J. Michael Brower, Georgetown University.
http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=3D30071869153511
All reviews posted to H-MINERVA, the H-Net discussion network devoted to =
the study of women and war and women in the military, worldwide and in =
all historical areas, which includes a number of other reviews which may =
be of interest to members of histsex -
http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showlist.cgi?lists=3DH-Minerva
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Philip Stokes" <philip.stokes@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [histsex] Don Leon
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:53:57 +0100
My interest in Byron is extensive, but can't be said to amount to expertise.
Thus when I tell you I've not found Don Leon or a reference to him, it's
much more an indication that the poem's spurious than an authoritative
declaration on the subject.
I shall however ask around. Meantime, if you discover anything, I would be
most grateful if you would share it with me.
Regards,
P.
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Haiduk Press <haidukpress@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [histsex] Don Leon
Hi,
The only thing of note that I think bears mention is
that it is clear to me that the final three couplets
are spurious. If anything they might have been culled
from the text by the author, or written but never
used. Also, looking at it I have found an obvious typo
or two, fault of the original transcriber, no doubt.
That is why I wanted to have a look at the manuscript.
Regards,
Andrei
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:59:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Angela Diaz <amdiaz86@yahoo.com>
I am a student from Florida International University
and I have to make a research about partial birth
abortion. I will appreciate any information you can
reach about it.
Angela
___________________________________________________________________From: Lesley Hall <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [histsex] partial birth abortion
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:53:14 GMT
There was some discussion of this on the list in
mid-April this year. Unfortunately it is not easy to
search the archives for a specific topic, but the
message numbers are in the early 1300s and upward, so
it should be possible to locate them.
> Histsex:For historians of sexuality -
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
>
> I am a student from Florida International University
> and I have to make a research about partial birth
> abortion. I will appreciate any information you can
> reach about it.
>
> Angela
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
web site
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:53:05 +0100
From: Diane Mason <d.mason@bathspa.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [histsex] funny looks and research
Hi Leigh, Christina and everyone else researching the slightly off-beam aspects of
sexuality in Victorian culture. I get both funny looks and laughs when I tell
people my PhD is on the topic of 'Masturbation in Victorian Fiction and Medical
Culture' - the favoured comment of many is 'Oh, it must be a very hands-on project'
- I use it myself now before anybody else gets there! Anyway, all the best with
your research, it sounds fascinating, and never let anybody put you off.
With very best wishes,
Diane
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 07:47:44 -0700
From: JILL SHEARER <JAZZ32@GTE.NET>
Subject: Re: [histsex] funny looks and research
Can you share a few tidbits from the literature end of your research?
Thanks,
Jill Shearer
Jazz32@gte.net
___________________________________________________________________
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:20:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Angela Diaz <amdiaz86@yahoo.com>
Since what time the medicine is practicing partial
birth abortion in United States?
Angela Diaz
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Dalley-Crozier ,Dr Ivan" <i.dalley-crozier@wellcome.ac.uk>
Subject: [histsex] help? Haire and Ellis
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:57:25 +0100
Dear All,
I am currently going over some notes I made at the Norman Haire papers in
the Fisher Library at Sydney University, and I came across the following
curious note:
***HE==>NH, 11/9/26(Fisher): Ellis is unable to go to the Congress being
planned by Moll in London, at which Haire spoke.***
Now, does anyone out there know what this Congress in LONDON could possibly
be, or, alternatively, have I conflated the 1929 WLSR Congress: although
going by the date, and the organiser, this seems wrong. Perhaps it was not
in London at all?
I know that Ellis did not go to the 1929 conf in London planned by
Hirschfeld... and I know that Haire had weird problems with Moll after a
falling out between the latter and Hirschfeld, and that Haire was adament
about not inviting Moll to the 1929 conf. But what is the deal here?
ANY information on this would be greatfully accepted: I am usually
interested in later Victorian stuff, and this is for my first research into
the 1920s medicalisation of sex and its organisation.
Cheerio, Ivan
============================================
Ivan Dalley Crozier,
i.dalley-crozier@wellcome.ac.uk
"An entertaining essay might perhaps be
written on the sexlessness of historians;
but it would be entertaining and nothing
more: we do not know enough either about
the historians or sex."
--Lytton Strachey, 1931
============================================
___________________________________________________________________From: Dean706@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:42:49 EDT
Subject: [histsex] We want to buy your literary criticism
Tudor Rose Book Shop is an independent online bookseller, in business for
over three years. We are also an Amazon ZShop, but are in no way part of a
megalomaniacal corporate behemoth. Our behemoth is modest and quite
well-intentioned. We specialize in English and American Literature.
We are writing you because we want to expand our offerings of literary
criticism. Since it is academics and students who make up most of the market
for litcrit, it is to you that we are turning in order to replenish our stock.
If you have used or new volumes of literary criticism you want to sell, then
we want to hear about it. Just drop us a line in response to this email with
some idea of what you have, and whether it is hardcover or paperback, used or
new. We'll get back in touch with you.
Dean Niles
Tudor Rose Book Shop
www.abebooks.com/home/tudor_rose
___________________________________________________________________From: Lesley Hall <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [histsex] Partial birth abortion
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:06:47 GMT
A very quick and superficial web search indicates that
this term came into use approximately 1995 in the USA
to describe the pre-existing operation of dilatation
and extraction used in late abortions. The search also
indicates that the meaning of this term is somewhat
'fuzzy' and it is not (at least in origin) a term the
medical profession used to describe the operation.
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
web site
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________From: p.lincoln@att.net
Subject: Re: [histsex] your mail
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 02:41:44 +0000
Hi Angela: My area of "expertise" is associated with
gender issues and sexuality as it exists in literature,
past and present. The Hist.sx forum provides references,
texts... that are of value to me ; but, I'm not at all
knowledgeable enough to help with this type of survey.
Consider a women's studies list? Or perhaps the
psychology of partial birth abortion?
Sorry
P.A.L.
> Histsex:For historians of sexuality - http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
>
> I am a student from Florida International University
> and I have to make a research about partial birth
> abortion. I will appreciate any information you can
> reach about it.
>
> Angela
___________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:39:05 -0700 (MST)
From: Tim Hodgdon <Tim.Hodgdon@asu.edu>
Subject: [histsex] X-Post H-Asia:The Women's International War Crimes Tribunal on Japan's
Military (fwd)
My apologies for any duplication of coverage.
Tim Hodgdon
Ph.D. candidate
Department of History
Arizona State University
Tim.Hodgdon@asu.edu
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:01:21 -0500
From: Paula C. Barnes <drbarnes@bellsouth.net>
Reply-To: H-NET List for Women's History <H-WOMEN@H-NET.MSU.EDU>
To: H-WOMEN@H-NET.MSU.EDU
Subject: X-Post H-Asia:The Women's International War Crimes Tribunal on
Japan's Military
Norman G. Owen "If you want to make God laugh, tell her your plans."
ngowen@hku.hk Anne Lamott, _Bird by Bird_
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:08:22 -0400
From: Steven Leibo <leibo@nycap.rr.com>
Reply-To: H-Net list for Asian History and Culture <H-ASIA@H-NET.MSU.EDU>
To: H-ASIA@H-NET.MSU.EDU
Subject: H-ASIA: The Women's International War Crimes Tribunal on Japan's
Military
H-ASIA
**********************************************
Colleagues: I am sending the following post out again because I have reason
to believe that it got garbled when I sent it out a few days ago.
Leibo
**********************************************************
From: mark selden <ms44@cornell.edu>
Subject: confusion?
The Women's International War Crimes Tribunal on Japan's Military
Sexual Slavery 2000 will convene in Tokyo on December 7-12.
This is a long post, appropriate, I believe, to the importance of the
issues.
The conference is the culmination of more than a decade of efforts by
the Asian victims of Japan's wartime sexual slavery system (the
"Comfort Women") with the support of Asian feminists and human rights
activists to tell their story and seek justice, and by international
movements centered on the United Nations Human Rights Commission to
recognize their grievances. It represents an extraordinary effort by
Asian women's movements to overcome barriers of language, the Cold
War legacy, and "national interest" to pose issues not only of
Japan's military sexual slavery but of contemporary military violence
against women internationally.
The Japanese government, after decades of denying responsibility for
the treatment of the comfort women, was forced by public testimony of
the comfort women to obliquely recognize its responsibility through
supporting the establishment of a 'private' fund to compensate
comfort women victims, while publicly evading its responsibilities
for apology and restitution. At present nine cases filed by former
comfort women pending in Japanese courts.
I am forwarding information about the conference from the organizers,
including a briefing on the issues and information about registration
and international support. Further information about participation
and donations to support the event is available from:
vaww-net-japan@jca.apc.org
mark selden
Binghamton and Cornell Universities
ms44@cornell.edu
A PRIMER ON THE WOMEN's INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMES TRIBUNAL
and Public Hearing on Current War Crimes
Tokyo, Japan
December 8 - 12, 2000
The Women's International War Crimes Tribunal on Japan's Military
Sexual Slavery
The WOMEN'S INTERNATIONAL WAR-CRIMES TRIBUNAL ON JAPAN'S
MILITARY SEXUAL SLAVERY (or the Tokyo Tribunal) is a people's
tribunal organized by Asian women and human rights organizations and
supported by the international NGOs, to hear the cases of sexual
slavery and other crimes involving sexual violence committed against
the women by Japan. Historically, hundreds of thousands of young
women in the Asia Pacific region were raped or either deceived or
abducted to become comfort women for the Japanese Imperial Army
during the Second World War. The women were held prisoners for
periods ranging from one week to more than four years.
After the Second World War, sexual violence committed by the
Japanese Imperial Army was hardly prosecuted by the International
Military Tribunal for the Far East (The Far East Tribunal) as set-up
by the Allied Forces. An exception was the Batavia (Indonesia) Trial
where the case of 35 Dutch women who had been victimized in
Indonesia, brought their case against 12 Japanese Army officers at
the Batavia court. Charges were made on the grounds of having
committed war crimes and in defiance of the laws and customs of war,
in the Dutch East Indies in 1944. One of the accused was condemned
to death and others were sentenced to imprisonment ranging from two
to 15 years. That was the only trial in history that gave justice to
the comfort women. Today most of the comfort women are still denied
such justice.
At present, the Japanese government continues to deny any
legal responsibility for the war crimes and crimes against humanity
committed against the women during the Second World War. Currently
there are 8 court cases filed by comfort women of various countries
such as South Korea, China, North Korea, Taiwan and the Philippines
at the Tokyo and other District Courts, including the High Court, yet
a number of this cases have been denied by the District Court,
especially the case of the Filipino and Dutch comfort women.
The Women's International War Crimes Tribunal will take place
in Tokyo, Japan on December 8-12, 2000. The venue of the Tribunal
will be at the: Kudan Kaikan, 1-6-5 Kudan-minami, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo,
Japan 102-0074, Telephone No. 03-3261-5521.
The participating victimized countries:
There were many countries victimized by the war of aggression and
colonization waged by Japan in the Asia Pacific region during the
1930s to the 1940s. They crossed the continent from the Pacific to
East and Southeast Asia. Today the victimized countries participating
in the Tokyo Tribunal includes South & North Korea, China, Taiwan,
Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Guam, Burma, among others.
Historical records showed that Japanese Imperial Army systematically
set up comfort stations and facilities for sexual slavery, in all the
occupied and colonized countries, coerced and abducted women to
become sex slaves for the purpose of providing sexual gratification
to the officers and soldiers of the Imperial Army.
It was in 1991 when Kim Hak Soon, the first Korean comfort woman
came out to tell her story publicly. Soon after, former comfort women
from other countries - North Korea, Philippines, Indonesia, Taiwan,
China, Malaysia, and the Dutch women who were held captive in
Indonesia - broke their fifty years of silence to tell their stories.
Today around 600 former comfort women from the victimized countries
have come out to tell their stories.
And a new page of history has been written.
Women's organizations, non-government organizations and civil society
took on the advocacy to demand justice for the former comfort women
and seek legal recognition of rape and sexual slavery as war crime,
crimes against humanity and genocide. The government of Taiwan, South
Korea, North Korea, the Philippines and China had on separate
occasions demanded from the Japan government to answer for their
wartime responsibility. Because of the comfort women's actions,
having brought their cases to court, they had challenged state
accountability to the war crimes perpetrated against them. And they
have inspired numerous other women victims of current war crimes in
different parts of the world.
No other movement has ever brought to the attention of the
international community the magnitude of gross human rights
violations perpetrated against the women fifty years ago, such as
that of the comfort women of Asia.
No other human rights movement has demanded an end to the cycle of
impunity of wartime sexual violence against women, such as that of
the comfort women.
No other human rights movement has brought together peoples from
different ideological, political, and social movements to unite on
common grounds - such as the impact of these movements to unite and
reconcile South and North Korea.
No other movement has demanded accountability from a perpetrator
country for the grave breaches of human rights violations done to
women that happened fifty years ago such as that of the comfort women.
No other movement has decided to look at the war crimes and crimes
against humanity violations under international law and humanitarian
law on the issue of sexual slavery, sexual violence such as that of
the comfort women.
The Organizers of the Tribunal
The victimized countries are represented by the following organizations:
. North Korea Committee on Measures for Compensation to the Former
Comfort Women for Japanese Army and Pacific War Victims (COCOPA)
. South Korea Korean Council for the Women Drafted for Military
Sexual Slavery by Japan
. China Shanghai Research Center on Comfort Woman
. Taiwan Taipei Women's Rescue Foundation
. Philippines Asian Centre for Women's Human Rights (ASCENT)
. Indonesia Indonesian Women's Coalition
. Malaysia. Support Network for Malaysian Comfort Women
. Netherlands Support Network for Dutch Comfort Women
. Burma Support Network for Burmese Comfort Women
Supporting the initiatives of the victimized countries from Japan is
the Violence Against Women in War-Network Japan. (VAWW-NET Japan)
These organizations comprise the members of the International
Organizing Committee (IOC) and the Convenors are:
. Ms. Yun Chung Ok of the Korean Council,
. Ms. Yayori Matsui of VAWW-NET Japan
. Ms. Indai Sajor of ASCENT
An International Advisory Committee has also been set up to provide
support and advise to the organizers. These are composed of
internationally known human rights advocates, feminists, in the area
of peace and development. These are:
. Edna Aquino, Amnesty International
. Ariane Brunet, International Center for Human Rights and Democratic
Development
. Charlotte Bunch, Center for Women's Global Leadership
. Florence Butegwa, Associates for Change
. Eugenia Piza Lopez, International Alert
. Alda Facio, ILANUD
. Marieme Helie Lucas, Women Living Under Muslim Laws
. Lepa Mladjenovic, Autonomous Women's Center Against Sexual Violence
. Vahida Nainar, Women's Caucus for Gender Justice
. Julie Shaw, Urgent Action Fund
. Vivian Stromberg, MADRE
. Felicity Hill, Women's International League for Peace and Freedom
. Regan Ralph, Human Rights Watch
The objectives of the Tokyo Tribunal
1. To receive from each country evidence highlighting the grave
nature of the crimes committed against the comfort women and to
clarify the consequent responsibility of the Japanese Government and
its military;
2. To have a clear analysis of the gendered nature of the crimes and
to established a gender-sensitive approach to the issues of war
crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide;
3. To involve the international community in shedding light about the
nature of the crimes committed against the comfort women of Asia and
to identify steps to be taken by the Japanese Government;
4. To create an international movement supporting women's issues on
violence against women under war and armed conflict situations; and
5. To end impunity of wartime sexual violence against women and to
prevent such crimes from happening in the future.
Background and Preparation for the Tokyo Tribunal
As the millennium comes to an end, it is but proper to give
the women survivors who are all in their advanced age a sense of what
constitutes justice. Discussion of organizing the International
Women's War Crimes Tribunal started in April 1998, when members of
the VAWW-NET International (Violence against Women in War Network)
met in Geneva to attend the session of the UN Commission on Human
Rights. Since then several meetings were held to flesh out the idea
of holding the Tokyo Tribunal among the victimized. The VAWW-NET
Japan, the Korean Council and ASCENT-Philippines were identified as
convenors of the Tribunal, with all the other participating countries
to form the International Organizing Committee (IOC). An
International Advisory Committee (IAC) was likewise created composed
of internationally known women's human rights activists, lawyers, and
feminists to provide support and advise to the IOC.
In these meetings, it was agreed that the main theme of the Tribunal
is to define the individual criminal responsibility and
accountability of the Japanese government under international law and
humanitarian law for its war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Succeeding meetings have been held whenever there is a possibility
for the members of the Organizing Committee to be together in other
international conferences or gatherings to discuss about the charter,
the rules and procedures of evidences, the country research and
prosecution teams, the judges, chief prosecutors and experts to be
invited.
The first prosecutors meeting was held in Manila last July 29-31,
2000 attended by 40 participants from the victimized countries and
Japan including observers. The IOC members met together with the
country prosecutors and chief prosecutors for the first time to
discuss the legal framework for the indictment and to approve the
Charter. Long discussions on the elements of war crimes, framework
of the indictments, rules of procedures and evidence and structure of
the country indictments were thoroughly discussed.
Another meeting was held in September 15-18, 2000 in Taipei. The
participating countries presented their indictments and finalized all
the necessary requirements for the holding of the Tribunal.
Meanwhile, teams of prosecutors from the victimized countries and
Japan composed of respected lawyers and academicians are working on
the indictment, doing research, gathering evidences, studying the
charter, and meeting the former comfort women.
Is redress possible in the Tokyo Tribunal?
The organizers are convinced that redress, for women
victimized in time of wars and conflict situations, from the past to
the present, is possible in the light of the principles of
international law, humanitarian law, human conscience, humanity and
gender justice.
The Tribunal has no real power to enforce its
judgement, but as a people's and women's initiative, it nonetheless
carries the moral authority to demand their wide acceptance and
enforcement of the judgement by the international community and civil
society and pave the way for law reforms in national governments.
The people involved in the Tokyo Tribunal
Other than the convenors and members of the International
Organizing Committee, there is a global campaign among women and men
to support and endorse the Tokyo Tribunal. Local, national, regional
and international campaigns are being initiated not only by the
victimized countries but by human rights and peace institutions,
networks working for humanitarian assistance and women's
organizations.
Partial listings of Tribunal Members:
The Judges:
Gabrielle Kirk McDonald, USA (former President of the Yugoslavia War
Crimes Tribunal)
Pierre Sane,Senegal ( Secretary General of Amnesty international)
Vitit Muntarbhorn, Thailand (former UN Rapporteur on the sale of the
children, child prostitution, and child pornography)
Carmen Maria Argibay, Argentina (President of the International
Women's Association of Judges)
Christine Chinkin, United Kingdom (Expert on Gender and International Law)
(Other eminent persons are still being contacted)
The Legal Advisers:
Rhonda Copellon, (Professor of Law, City University of New York)
Theo Van Boven, (Professor of law, Maastricht University, the Netherlands)
Kelly Dawn Askin, (Professor of law, Washington University)
The Chief Prosecutors:
Patricia Viseur-Sellers, Legal Adviser for Gender-Related Crimes in
the Office of the Prosecutor for the International Criminal Tribunal
for the former Yugoslavia, and until recently the Rwanda Tribunal;
Ustinia Dolgopol - Professor of Law, Flinders University, Australia
Hina Jilani - Lawyer for the Supreme Court of Pakistan
The Experts:
Herbert P. Bix -Emperor Hirohito
Theo Van Boven -right to reparation
Gay McDougall - racism and gender
Yoshiaki Yoshimi - Japanese Imperial Army
Fritz Kalshoven - state responsibility
(others are still being contacted)
The Country Prosecutors:
For North Korea
Hwang Ho Nam, Secretary General, COCOPA
Jong Nam Yong, lawyer, Executive Member, COCOPA
For China
Mr. Zhou Hong-jun, Law Professor & Deputy Chief of the International
Economic Law Institute of East China University of Politics and Law
Mr. Su Zhi Liang, History Department, Shanghai Teachers University
For South Korea
Dr. Kim, Myung-gi, Chief Prosecutor, Myunggi University, Professor,
International Law)
Dr. Cho Si Hyun, Prosecutor, Professor of Law, Sungsin University
Law School, International Law
Dr. Kim Chang Rok, Prosecutor,, Pusan University of Law, History of Japan
Law
Mr. Chang Wan-Ick, Prosecutor, Lawyer, ANSAN
Mr. Park Won-soon, Prosecutor, Lawyer, General Secretary, Peoples
Solidarity for Participatory Democracy
Ms. Kang Jeong-sook, Prosecutor, Research staff, Korean Institute of
Jungshindae, Women history)
Dr. Ha Jong-moon, Prosecutor, Professor of Hanshin University
Dr. Yang Hyun-ah, Lecturer at Seoul University
For Taiwan
Mr. Liao Ying-Chih, lawyer, International Law
Ms. Lu Chia Hsiang, Taipei Women's Rescue Foundation
Mr. Chuang Kuo-Ming (Henry), lawyer, international law
For Philippines
Dr. Merlin Magallona, Professor of Law, College of Law, University of
the Philippines
Atty. Sedfrey Candelaria, Asst. Dean, Ateneo University College of Law
Dr. Purificacion Quisumbing, Chairperson Philippine Judicial
Academy, Supreme Court of the Philippines
Prof. Ricardo Jose, Professor of History, University of the Philippines,
Atty. Evalyn Ursua, Professor of Law, University of the Philippines
Ms. Aurora Javate de Dios, Dean, Miriam College
For Indonesia
Nursyahbhani Katjasungkana, lawyer and Secretary General of
Indonesian Women Coalition for Justice and Democracy
Antarini Ama , lawyer of the Indonesian Women's Coalition for Justice
and Democracy
Asnifriyanti Damanik - Legal Aid Indonesia Women Association for Justice
Paulus R. Mahulette - Lawyer, LBH Jakarta (Jakarta Legal
Aid Institute)
For Japan
Atty. Kazuko Kawaguchi, Chief Lawyer, VAWW-NET Japan
Atty. Yuichi Yokota, Lawyer, VAWW-Net Japan
Atty. Yasushi Higashizawa, Lawyer, VAWW-Net Japan
Professor Koki Abe
Professor Shin Hae Bong
For the Netherlands
Atty. Henry Grant, (Professor of Law & former Prosecutor ICTY)
The Public Hearing on Current War Crimes
A one-day public hearing is being organized to hear the
testimonies of the victims from on-going war and conflict around the
world, to demonstrate that the crimes against the former 'comfort
women' is still happening to women today. The public hearing will
be comprised of testimonies of victims and survivors of wars and
conflicts in different regions of the globe such as Guatemala,
Colombia, Chiapas, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Congo, Nigeria, Rwanda,
Somalia, Sudan, Kosovo, Bangladesh, Kashmir, Cambodia, Vietnam,
Burma, East Timor, Afghanistan, Algeria and Puerto Rico.
The hearing will not only present testimonies of women who
had been victimized by war but also provide a forum simultaneously to
talk about the initiatives of women and men in other countries to
rise and demand justice and peace in their communities. The public
hearing will usher the continuing work of women and men for justice,
peace and end to impunity.
The series of consultative meetings among the women's and human
rights groups, peace networks and law reform advocates. The four
themes that were eventually identified at this meetings represent the
source or the root cause of wars/conflicts and human rights
violations.
The themes identified are:
. Conflicts/violations resulting from extremism. Many countries are
in situations of war, conflict and unrest as a result of rise of the
power and stronghold of states, groups and organizations that profess
extreme ideologies based on nationalism, ethnicity, religion, race,
marginalization, majoritarianism, which take violent forms and
terrorizes the communities.
. Conflicts/violations resulting from militarism: Aggression,
invasion, state repression, military or other kinds of occupation and
foreign policy of powerful countries are the source of conflicts in
many countries around the world today. In the process, fundamental
rights of peoples, particularly women are violated.
. Resource-based conflicts/violations: Access and dispute over
resources have been the root cause of wars and conflicts. Disputes
over land, natural resources, borders, territories, water, natural
resources have intensified in many countries and their communities.
. Violations during post-conflict and the lasting impacts in the
event of non-resolution of conflicts on peace and reconstruction:
Women are often ignored or marginalized during the peace process and
in the subsequent efforts of reconstruction and rehabilitation. Many
forms of violence against women take place as accountability often
are not ensured during this phase.
The public hearing will be held on December 11, after the
third day of the Tokyo Tribunal proceedings and followed the next
day by the Tokyo Tribunal judgement. The Women's Caucus for Gender
Justice for the ICC in New York is the Secretariat for the public
hearing.
Women's Caucus for Gender Justice, PO Box 3541 Grand Central Post
Office, New York,
NY 10163,USA Tel.1-212-697-7741 & Fax. 1-212-949-7996 Email
<iccwomen@igc.org>
Groups supporting the Tribunal
Various organizations and individuals have already endorsed and
expressed their support for the Tribunal. UN Special Rapporteurs
will be invited to attend the proceedings. In particular, UN SR
Rhadhika Coomarswamy will specifically attend the Public Hearing on
Current war Crimes to hear the cases of women for her next report at
the UN Commission on Human Rights in March 2001. Following are the
initial list of these organizations:
NGO Coalition to the International Criminal Court (CICC); Amnesty
International (AI); CIDA-SEAGEP; Shaler Adams Foundation;
Akina-Mama-Wa Africa; Asian and Pacific Development Center (APDC);
International Women's Human Rights Law Clinic (CUNY- NY); ISIS-WICCE;
ISIS-Manila; International Center for Human Rights and Democratic
Development (ICHRDD); Women Living Under Muslim Laws (WLUML); Women's
International League for Peace and Freedom (WILPF); Equality Now;
International Alert; Human Rights Watch; Urgent Action Fund; MADRE;
Autonomous Women's Center Against Sexual Violence; Coalition Against
Trafficking in Women (CATW); Asia Pacific Forum on Women Law and
Development (APWLD); Global Alliance Against Trafficking in Women
(GAATW); Australian National Committee of Refugee Women; INFORM, Sri
Lanka; AGHS Legal Aid Cell, Pakistan; Asian and Pacific Development
Center (APDC); Revolutionary Association of the Women of
Afghanistan; Women's Caucus for Gender Justice - ICC and more.
The Convenors of the Tribunal
. Yayori Matsui
VAWW-NET Japan
2-10-10 Shiomi, Koto-ku, 135-8685, Japan
Tel/Fax: (813) 5337-4088
Email: vawwjs@jca.apc.org
URL: http://www.jca.apc.org/vaww-net-japan
. Yun Chung Ok
The Korean Council for the Women Drafted for
Military Sexual Slavery by Japan
3F, CISUD Bldg., #35 Chungieongro 2 Ga
Seodaemun Gu, Seoul, Korea
Tel: (822) 365-4016 & Fax: (822) 365-4017
. Indai Sajor
Asian Centre for Women's Human Rights (ASCENT)
Suite 306 MJB Bldg., 220 Tomas Morato Ave.,
Quezon City, Philippines
Tel: (632) 926-4386 or 410-1512
Fax: (632) 928-4973
Email: ascent@csi.com.ph
URL:http://www.vawwnet.org
The Conference Program and Expressions of Support
The "Comfort women" who were the victims of sexual violence by the
Japanese Imperial Army before and during World War II, broke their
silence in the early 1990's and have demanded redress and justice.
The Japanese government continues to deny legal responsibility and
undermine the dignity of the women.
Therefore, women's groups and individuals across the Asia Pacific
region have come together to organize a Women's Tribunal in order to
respond to the cries of aging survivors. From the women's
perspective, justice and dignity will never be realized until
perpetrators of the crimes are prosecuted and there is a full
acceptance of responsibility by the Japanese government. The
tribunal is one way of ensuring a 21st century free of violence
against women.
The judges and prosecutors for the Tribunal are leading experts in
the field of human rights and international law.
On the fourth day of the proceedings there will be an International
Public Hearing on Violence Against Women which will focus on current
armed conflicts. Participants in this Public Hearing include women
fromÅ@Afghanistan, East Timor, Cambodia, the former Yugoslavia,
Algeria, Congo, Rwanda, Guatemala, and other areas.
Schedule
Date & Time Events
Dec. 7 (Thu) Opening Ceremony; 18:30-20:30
Dec. 8 (Fri) Day 1 of the Tribunal; 9:30-17:00
Opening remarks, Reading indictment by Prosecutors, Defense Counsel,
Japan's responsibility, Countries' presentation by South & North Korea
18:30-20:30 Welcome receptions
Dec. 9 (Sat) Day 2 of the Tribunal; 9:30-17:00
Country's presentation by Taiwan, China, Philippines, and Malaysia,
and Experts' testimonies
18:30-20:30 Video showing
Dec. 10 (Sun) Day 3 of the Tribunal; 9:30-17:00
Countries' presentation by Indonesia, East Timor, Netherlands, and,
Japan, Experts' testimonies, Perpetrators' testimonies, Defense
Counsel, and Closing comments
18:30-20:30 Cultural Night
Dec. 11 (Mon) International Public Hearing on Current Armed
Conflicts and Women
9:00-18:00 Testimonies by women from 12 areas of current and
post conflicts
Dec. 12 (Tue) Day 4 of the Tribunal; 9:30-17:00
Judgments and comments by all judges, press conference, and demonstration
Countries' presentation includes (1) prosecutor's indictment, (2)
survivors' testimonies, and (3) explanation of evidence.
Participants at the Tribunal and the Public Hearing
Survivors from victimized areas; Judges; Chief prosecutors & Country
prosecutors; Expert witnesses on trauma, reparations, and
discrimination based on gender and race; Legal advisors; Respected
members of the International Community; and Media
Venue
Kudan Kaikan
1-6-5 Kudanminami, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 1020074 Japan
Phone 03 3261 5521
Access
>From Narita (Tokyo) International Airport
1. Take a limousine bus from Narita airport to Tokyo City Air Terminal
(TCAT).
2. Take a subway (HANZOMON line) and get off at KUDAN-SHITA station.
3. Exit from the EXIT #4 at the station and it takes about 1-minute
walk from the station.
Accommodation
We have a list of hotels near the venue. If you need a list, please
check the box on the registration form.
Registration procedures: contact the organizers
Those who want to apply from 6 victim countries are requested to
contact the following organizations of each country.
Country Group/Representative Address Tel/Fax/Email
South Korea The Korean Council for the Women Drafted for Military
Sexual Slavery by Japan
Ms. Yun Chung-Ok 3/F, CISJD Bldg., #35
Chungieongro 2 Ga
Seodaemun Gu, Seoul, Korea Tel +82-2-365-4016
Fax +82-2-365-4017
Email: jdh@peacenet.or.kr
North Korea Committee on Measures for Compensation to the Former
"Comfort Women for Japanese Army" and Pacific War Victims
Mr. Hwang Ho Nam Ryonhwa-1, Central District, Pyongyang, DPR
of Korea Tel +850-2-18222 EXT: 8048
Fax +850-2-3814644
China Shanghai Teachers University Department of Sociology & History
Prof. Su Zhi Liang 100 Guilin Road,
Dept. of History, STU
Shanghai 200234, China Tel: 64322819
Fax: 64361873
Email: Su@guomai.sh.cn
Taiwan, R.O.C. Taipei Women's Rescue Foundation
Mr. Henry K.M. Chuang 7F-1, No. 321, Sec 1,
Fuh Sing S. Rd.,
Taipei, Taiwan, R.O.C. Tel: 02-2700-9595
Fax: 02-2704-4854
Email: twr95@ms4.hinet.net
Philippines Asian Centre for Women's Human Rights (ASCENT)
Ms. Indai L. Sajor Suite 306, MJB Bldg.,
220 Tomas Morato Ave.,
Quezon City, Philippines Tel: +63-2-926-4386
FAX +63-2-928-4973
Email: ascent@csi.com.ph
Indonesia Nursyahbani Katjasungkana Jl. Raya Tengah nomor 16,
Kramatjati, Jakarta 13540,
Indonesia Tel/Fax +62-21-87797289
Email: apiknet@centrin.net.id
Donations
Those unable to attend but who would like to support the Tribunal can
make a donation to VAWW-NET Japan.
If you have questions, please feel free to ask VAWW-NET Japan.
VAWW-NET Japan
2-10-10 Shiomi, Koto-ku, Tokyo 135-8585, Japan
Phone/FAX +81-3-5337-4088, E-mail: vaww-net-japan@jca.apc.org
URL: http://www.jca.apc.org/~vawwjs
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___________________________________________________________________From: ralfdose@t-online.de (Ralf Dose)
To: "Histsex:For historians of sexuality" <histsex@listbot.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 01:12:59 +0100
Dear Ivan,
there is simple answer to your question: The congress Ellis could
not attend in 1926 was held in Berlin, not in London, and was
organized by Moll. There is a 5-volume congress report in German,
Marcuse, Max (Hrsg.): Verhandlungen des 1. Internationalen
Kongresses für Sexualforschung. Berlin, vom 10.-16. Oktober
1926. 5 Bde. Berlin/Köln (A. Marcus & E. Weber's Verlag) 1928.
1. Experimentalforschung und Biologie
2. Phsysiologie Pahtologie und Therapie
3. Psychologie, Pädagogik, Ethik, Ästhetik, Religion
4. Demographie und Statistik, Sozial- und Rassenhygiene
5. Straf- und Zivilrecht, Strafprozeß und Strafvollzug, Soziologie,
Ethnologie und Folklore
There were extended quarrels about this congress in the
sexologist's community of the 1920's: Moll excluded Hirschfeld
from this congress, and you will find a heated debate about this in
German sexological journals and in Berlin the newspapers of 1926.
Hirschfeld, though not a participant of the congress himself, invited
the congress members to visit his Institute while in Berlin, and
many of them did, to the dismay of Moll. Dora Russell gives a short
account of this event in her memories "The Tamarisk Tree."
There was a second international congress organized by Moll and
his crowd in 1930, which took place in London, and was clearly
planned to disturb Hirschfeld's WLSR circles. E.g. when Haire tried
to get Wiesner, of Edinburgh, as a supporter for the London WLSR
congress, he had to find out that Moll already had engaged
Wiesner for his plans. And from the Haire letters to Dora Russell I
know that he was alarmed about rumors spread in England
(allegedly by Moll) that the 1929 WLSR congress would be a
meeting of homosexuals.
Of course, you won't find a word about theses quarrels in the
English congress report:
Greenwood, A.W. (ed.): Proceedings of the Second International
Congress for Sex Research, London 1930. Edinburgh, London
(Oliver and Boyd) 1931.
The fight between Moll and Hirschfeld is a long and sad story. It
started during the Eulenburg affair (if not earlier) and did not end
before Hirschfeld died.
Let me know if you need more details.
Ralf
Ralf Dose M.A.
Magnus-Hirschfeld-Gesellschaft e.V.
Forschungsstelle zur Geschichte der Sexualwissenschaft
Chodowieckistr. 41, D-10405 Berlin
http://www.in-berlin.de/user/hirschfeld
ralfdose@magnus.in-berlin.de office e-mail
x49-30-441 39 73 office phone/fax
ralfdose@t-online.de home e-mail
x49-30-215 94 74 home phone
___________________________________________________________________From: "docx2" <docx2@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [histsex] help? Haire and Ellis
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:55:29 -0700
----- Original Message -----
From: Ralf Dose <ralfdose@t-online.de>
To: Histsex:For historians of sexuality <histsex@listbot.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 5:12 PM
Subject: [histsex] help? Haire and Ellis
The fight between Moll and Hirschfeld is a long and sad story. It
started during the Eulenburg affair (if not earlier) and did not end
before Hirschfeld died.
Let me know if you need more details.
Ralf
Dear Ralf,
I would like more details. I do not speak (or read) German, so this
whole era is rather confusing for me.
Take care,
Charles Moser
P.S. Does anyone have a reference for the story that Leopold von
Sacher-Masoch wrote Krafft-Ebing an angry letter for naming a psychiatric
entity for him (actually his maternal grand-father who was a public health
physician in Vienna)?
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Jencks" <jencks4@home.com>
Subject: [histsex] New Member
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:26:18 -0600
Hello. My name is Jeff-todd Jencks. I am primarily interested in
discussions about sexual ethics, the psychology of sex and the psychological
history of sex. I am also interested in what I call Near Sex. Near Sex
means anything that can be debated as to whether it is sex or not. For
example, nudity is a Near Sex topic because nudists claim that they can
enjoy nudity that is not sexual while certain religions claim that nudity is
inherently sexual. Whenever some people call it sex while others say it's
not sex than it's a Near Sex topic. Other Near Sex topics include
affection, sex therapy, and certain clothing styles.
I think the main reason that I'm interested in Near Sex is because I grew up
with intense feelings of body shame. My feelings were so severe that I
always wore long sleeve shirts and long pants no matter how hot it was and I
even contemplated wearing gloves and a hood so that no flesh could be
visible. I felt ashamed everytime I went to the bathroom or took a shower
because the body was sinful.
Since then, I have relaxed a lot and I'm not plagued by feelings of shame.
But I still have a desire to understand how I or anyone else could have
developed such intense feelings of body shame in the first place and how a
healthier set of sexual ethics might be taught so that future generations
aren't inflicted with the same body shame I had to overcome.
My email address is jencks4@home.com
My homepage is http://bejjinks.tripod.com
I love discussion. Thank you.
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Hubert" <hubert.gieschen@users.breworld.net>
Subject: Re: [histsex] New Member
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 23:50:29 +0100
Thank God for that message. I amost felt like I was the only one on the =
list not writing for a phd and who joined up for more pragmatic reasons =
(see my intro)
Hubert
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jencks=20
To: histsex@listbot.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:26 PM
Subject: [histsex] New Member
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Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 06:09:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jennifer Ball <jenniferlball@excite.com>
Subject: Re: [histsex] New Member
This an introduction and a comment on the last email I received.
My name is Jennier L Ball and I am working on my PhD at Purdue University,
West Lafayette, IN. My diss covers contraception in the 1940s and 1950s in
Connecticut.
While I write for the pragmatic reason of fulfilling PhD requirments, my
research is a labor of love. I'm personally fascinated and invested in the
fragmentation of identity through sexuality. I believe most scholars find
their work personally and professionally engaging. That is why it is
refreshing to have a committed, engaged, respectful and informed group with
whom to discuss these issues.
In short, you are among colleagues whether you're writing a diss or not.
Jen
jlball@expert.cc.purdue.edu
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 23:50:29 +0100, Histsex:For historians of sexuality
wrote:
Histsex:For historians of sexuality -
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
Thank God for that message. I amost felt like I was the only one on the
list not writing for a phd and who joined up for more pragmatic reasons (see
my intro)
Hubert
----- Original Message -----
From: Jencks
To: histsex@listbot.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:26 PM
Subject: [histsex] New Member
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Jencks" <jencks4@home.com>
Subject: Re: [histsex] New Member
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:09:41 -0600
I don't know how to find the intro referred to here. It's probably in =
the archives and I=20
don't know how to find the archives yet.
___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [histsex] New Member
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:58:54 +0100
The archives can be accessed via the list homepage, which gets put at =
the top of all messages so I won't repeat it here, however, as I have =
had occasion to remark before, they are not threaded but simply in =
reverse chronological order, with the most recent at the top, and also =
don't indicate writer of messages.
Does anyone know of any other free e-list services which don't involve a =
lot of advertising being tagged on to messages and other disadvantages? =
but do allow threading of archives and other desirables?
Thanks
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: [histsex] List homepage/archives
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:50:10 +0100
Ooops - I've just noticed that this link only went to the homepage for =
my site - I've just amended it so that it should go to the Histsex =
homepage.
Sorry
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________
From: JNKATZ1@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:51:58 EDT
Subject: [histsex] What is "Sex"?
Since the Bill and Monica Scandal of 1999 the new member should include in
"Near Sex" oral-genital contacts, the subject of a public, historic, and
hilarious national debate about what constitutes sex.
___________________________________________________________________From:
"Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: [histsex] Review of interest
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:22:57 +0100
Will Roscoe. Changing Ones: Third and Fourth Genders In Native America. =
New York: St. Martin's Press, 1998. viii + 320 pp. Illustrations, =
tables, glossary, tribal index of alternative gender roles and =
sexuality, notes, bibliography of native gay and lesbianliterature, =
bibliography, index . $16.95 (paper), ISBN 0-312-22479-6. Reviewed by =
Donna M. Dean, Ph. D., Independent Scholar.
http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=3D14884971731727
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Hubert" <hubert.gieschen@users.breworld.net>
Subject: Re: [histsex] New Member
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:31:22 +0100
Just in case, I hope nobody felt offended by my remarks. But prior to =
joining I had assumed that a very broad scientific interest would be =
served. I will probably be proved right.
To avoid long searches and briefly, I have an MA (in Welsh History!) and =
my interest in the history of sex comes from an interest in the (almost =
London, England specific) phenomina of pubs (not clubs) where striptease =
is performed and its social history. I am still a subscriber to a =
discussion group on this particualar issue at london_strip@egroups.com =
(in response to Lesley you probably will find that there are far too =
many adverts on egroups.com. Otherwise egroups lets you do whatever you =
want), but there is no real interest in the scientific aspect of the =
matter.
As it happened only tonight I was present when a film crew for Britain's =
Channel Four TV was filming on location.
To finish it off, I also have an amateur interest in erotic art on =
medieval churches.
Hubert
___________________________________________________________________From: "Dalley-Crozier ,Dr Ivan" <i.dalley-crozier@wellcome.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: [histsex] What is "Sex"?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:45:28 +0100
Dear Mr Jencks,
I am all for the most extreme forms of social constructivism, especially of
humans and human relations. But I am stuck: can you give me an example of
penis/vagina contact which is not sexual for at least one of the parties, or
intended to be, at some level? I would of course like to exclude sexual
violence, although it may to fall under sexual for at least one party.
Cheerio, Ivan
============================================
Ivan Dalley Crozier,
i.dalley-crozier@wellcome.ac.uk
"An entertaining essay might perhaps be
written on the sexlessness of historians;
but it would be entertaining and nothing
more: we do not know enough either about
the historians or sex."
--Lytton Strachey, 1931
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jencks [mailto:jencks4@home.com]
Sent: 20 October 2000 05:42
To: Histsex:For historians of sexuality
Subject: Re: [histsex] What is "Sex"?
Histsex:For historians of sexuality -
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah/listinf.htm
Yes, oral genital contact would fall under the heading Near Sex. The truth
is, technically everything falls under the heading of Near Sex because there
are always some people who are going to call everything sexual and some
people who would deny penis vagina contact as sexual. So before we get off
into extremes, the point of the question is to narrow the gray area, to
define sex well enough that we eventually eliminate all subjects from
falling under the heading Near Sex.
___________________________________________________________________From: "Jencks" <jencks4@home.com>
Subject: Re: [histsex] What is "Sex"?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:41:50 -0600
Yes, oral genital contact would fall under the heading Near Sex. The truth
is, technically everything falls under the heading of Near Sex because there
are always some people who are going to call everything sexual and some
people who would deny penis vagina contact as sexual. So before we get off
into extremes, the point of the question is to narrow the gray area, to
define sex well enough that we eventually eliminate all subjects from
falling under the heading Near Sex.
___________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:36:13 -0500
From: Dar Weyenberg <dweyenbe@students.wisc.edu>
Subject: RE: [histsex] What is "Sex"?
Hello jencks and all
I think one of the things that the national "debates" relating to what
counts as sex (as subsequently what does not) was how conceptually the
concept discursively scaffolded with different layers of meaning that
function to differienate, divide and normalize. It seems to me that that
through the practice of "narrowing the grey area",-which has the effect of
loading up on tje what "is" sex pole-which also has the effect of saying
what "ought" to be. This linking of the "is" and the "ought" is problematic.
dar
___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: [histsex] Fw: call for papers
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:45:29 +0100
Some of you may already have seen this!
From: Journal of the History of Sexuality <jhs@sfsu.edu>
Date: 20 October 2000 20:23
Subject: call for papers
JHS: Call for Papers
(pls. forward)
Since the end of World War II, human sexuality has become a major =
consideration in political life throughout the globe. Communities and =
states on virtually every continent have struggled to control =
reproduction, redefine marriage, address sexual rights, and revise the =
boundaries of legitimate sexual expression and behavior. Contraception, =
abortion, consensual sex, homosexuality, divorce, pornography, =
prostitution, and sexually transmitted diseases are the most prominent =
among the myriad issues that have challenged legislators and political =
processes and transformed more than a few political careers.
The Journal of the History of Sexuality invites scholars interested in =
these or related subjects to submit articles for a special issue on =
"Sexuality and Politics since 1945." The editors welcome historical =
studies that address one or more of these issues in a single region as =
well as studies that are comparative.
The deadline for submission of completed articles is October 15, 2001. =
Earlier submissions are encouraged. Address completed manuscripts to: =
Barbara Loomis, History Department, San Francisco State University, San =
Francisco, CA 94132.
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: [histsex] Conference Announcement and CFP
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 21:06:33 +0100
The Fourth European Social Science History Conference will take place in =
The Hague, The Netherlands, 27 Feb-2 Mar 2002
The Conference website is at http://www.iisg.nl/esshc with further =
details, on-line pre-registration form, etc.
The conference is organised in thematic strands, one of which is =
Sexuality.
As co-chair of the Sexuality strand, I am looking for either complete =
panels (2-3 speakers, commentator, and chair), or individual papers.
At the previous conference, last April in Amsterdam, we had a very good =
and lively set of panels in spite of the unsympathetic building and the =
defects in location, shape and size of the room to which our sessions =
had been allocated.
Historians of sexuality are also like to find other sessions of interest =
in other strands.
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________From: "Jencks" <jencks4@home.com>
Subject: Re: [histsex] What is "Sex"? :answer to Ivan
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:38:08 -0600
What I was referring to was that some people would lie and attempt to
convince that penis vagina contact is not sex. For example, a man may have
an affair and attempt to say that is wasn't an affair because they only had
intercourse.
___________________________________________________________________From: "Dalley-Crozier ,Dr Ivan" <i.dalley-crozier@wellcome.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: [histsex] What is "Sex"? :answer to Ivan
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:30:15 +0100
Dear Jencks,
Isn't this confusing categories? If one is having an affair it does not
necesarily involve sex, but it is still an affair. And one can also have
sex with someone with whom one is not having an affair (just a casual night,
never to be seen again, for example). But I really cannot conceive of your
original proposition: that penile/vaginal contact can be considered
non-sexual.
As for lying: to whom are they lying? Their partner, themselves, each
other, the world? And what about other's interpretations: I cannot think of
many Freudians, for instance, buying the line that penile/vaginal contact is
not sexual. So, again, it is a problem of categories.
Cheerio, ijdc
============================================
Ivan Dalley Crozier,
i.dalley-crozier@wellcome.ac.uk
"An entertaining essay might perhaps be
written on the sexlessness of historians;
but it would be entertaining and nothing
more: we do not know enough either about
the historians or sex."
--Lytton Strachey, 1931
============================================
___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [histsex] What is "Sex"? :answer to Ivan
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:53:29 +0100
). But I really cannot conceive of your
>original proposition: that penile/vaginal contact can be considered
>non-sexual.
I'd concur with Ivan's arguments on this - isn't a common rationale for such
divagations from a central relationship the plea that it was 'ONLY sex'
(i.e. detached from anything else like emotions or meaningful relationship)
rather than 'NOT sex'?
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Julie Cox" <jmcjls@earthlink.net>
Subject: [histsex] sexology bibliographies?/sex in ancient Egypt
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:26:13 -0700
Hi all
I've been diligently searching through the histsex archives--by no means
done--so it's possible the answers to my questions remain hidden for the
moment.
1. Can someone point me to Sexology Bibliographies? I'm interested most in
writings in English translation but I'm also looking for writings in French
and German.
2. As a side project I'm trying to determine the history of the dildo in
Ancient Egypt (as in did they really know of it). One version of the
Isis-Osiris myth definitely seems to suggest knowledge of a prosthetic
phallus. Citations very welcome.
3. Would Charcot be considered a sexologist? Which might be a more
general, "who would be considered a sexologist?"
Julie M. Cox
PhD student, Literature
UC Santa Cruz
jmcjls@earthlink.net
___________________________________________________________________From: "Lesley Hall" <lesleyah@primex.co.uk>
Subject: [histsex] Oscar Wilde Conference
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:46:05 +0100
This may already have been mentioned on the list, but I came across this =
information today:
The Importance of Being Misunderstood: Homage to Oscar Wilde - An
international conference on Oscar Wilde.
Bologna and Parma, Italy, 8th-11th November 2000
http://www.lingue.unibo.it/avvenimenti/internat.htm
Lesley Hall
lesleyah@primex.co.uk
website http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah
___________________________________________________________________
From: "Greg Reeder" <reeder@sirius.com>
Subject: Re: [histsex] sex in ancient Egypt
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:12:00 -0700
Dear Julie,
I have seen dildo like phalli made of stone and ivory in the Egyptian Museum
Cairo, but do not recall
any published material on them. For a good book on sexualities in Late Egypt
see:
Sex and Society in Graeco-Roman Egypt (Kegan Paul )by Dominic Montserrat.
You might be interested in my just published paper on the Tomb of the
Manicurists,
"Same-sex desire, conjugal constructs, and the tomb of Niankhkhnum and
Khnumhotep"
see:
World Archaeology (Routledge)
Volume 32 Number 2
Issue Oct 2000
193-208
http://www.catchword.co.uk/titles/routledg/00438243/v32n2/contp1-1.htm
Greg Reeder
reeder@sirius.com
http://www.egyptology.com/niankhkhnum_khnumhotep/
___________________________________________________________________From: "Dalley-Crozier ,Dr Ivan" <i.dalley-crozier@wellcome.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: [histsex] sexology bibliographies?/sex in ancient Egypt
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:16:54 +0100
Dear Julie Cox,
A good place to start for sexology sources is Lucy Bland and Laura Doan,
eds, Sexology Uncensored, Chicago, 1998. If you want more, then Frank
Sulloway, Freud, Biologist of the Mind, Harvard, 1979 also has an excellent
bibliography f the original sources. And then of course, there are a lot of
sources in these sources, etc.
As for: 3. Would Charcot be considered a sexologist? Which might be a more
general, "who would be considered a sexologist?"
No Charcot would not, he was a neurologist who used hypnotism. He did write
a paper with Valentin Magnan on homosexuality which is interesting, however.
Sexologists of use to you might be Albert Moll or Havelock Ellis. It
depends what time frame, though, as Kinsey, for example, is a sexologist in
a very different field to Ellis. But if you are interested in J-M. Charcot,
then you probably do not have Kinsey in mind. Let me know if you want to
discuss this further.
Cheerio, Ivan
============================================
Ivan Dalley Crozier,
i.dalley-crozier@wellcome.ac.uk
"An entertaining essay might perhaps be
written on the sexlessness of historians;
but it would be entertaining and nothing
more: we do not know enough either about
the historians or sex."
--Lytton Strachey, 1931
============================================
___________________________________________________________________From: "Jencks" <jencks4@home.com>
Subject: Re: [histsex] What is "Sex"?
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:28:19 -0600
Can we get off of the penile vaginal sex